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Old 12-21-2016, 01:21 PM   #61
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The OP asked a question that people are answering based on their opinions. Just as you are entitled to voice your opinion based on your reasoning everyone else is entitled to voice theirs.
The difference is I'm not telling anybody else what they should or shouldn't carry. The same cannot be said of some of the anti FMJ voices in this thread.
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I agree that HPs are definitely better from an overpenetration perspective. But what about reliability? That should be the number one concern for any self defense weapon... yet it seems that hollow points... generally speaking... are more likely to have feeding issues than FMJ.

Obviously, most of us find a good HP that works in our guns and carry it (I do). But, in the sense that you're trying reduce every possible opportunity for some kind of an issue in a SD situation... FMJ is probably the more reliable bullet design.

This occurred to me when I was "testing" some HPs for reliable feeding in my P239... should I really be depending on ammo I need to "test"?

In the end, they all fed fine. And I've never had a FTF in from HPs. But... it just got me thinking...
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I agree that HPs are definitely better from an overpenetration perspective. But what about reliability? That should be the number one concern for any self defense weapon... yet it seems that hollow points... generally speaking... are more likely to have feeding issues than FMJ.

Obviously, most of us find a good HP that works in our guns and carry it (I do). But, in the sense that you're trying reduce every possible opportunity for some kind of an issue in a SD situation... FMJ is probably the more reliable bullet design.

This occurred to me when I was "testing" some HPs for reliable feeding in my P239... should I really be depending on ammo I need to "test"?

In the end, they all fed fine. And I've never had a FTF in from HPs. But... it just got me thinking...
Frankly, with just about any pistol from the last several decades, you'd probably have a harder time finding a gun that isn't just as reliable with HP's as hardball than one that is. As long as the bullet itself isn't something exotic, it should be fine....especially in 9mm. I'd say it's probably more important to get QUALITY HP ammo. But yeah, unlike old 1911's and Hi-Powers, modern pistols are good to go with HP's from the get-go if it's still shaped like a bullet. But of course, you should always run your intended carry load for a test.

And testing ammo is just as important and 'necessary' as running a new pistol and seeing how well it functions, even if it's reputed to be reliable. So it's not like it's a special exception for HP's or what not.

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Expanding bullets are not used by the military because of the Hague Convention, not because they are tactically inferior. Look up some of the "one shot stop" tables online and you'll see that the use of expanding bullets is more significant than anything else.
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Is it a bad idea to have solid bullets or full metal jacket loads rather than hollow points for conceal and carry? Is there ever a time when you would want to?
The only time I can think of would be if you needed to stop a truck the terrorist is using to run over people.
The theory being a FMJ might (?) penetrate to the trucks vitals better than a HP.
Of course you'd need to have a mag loaded with FMJ's & have enough time to change from your mag loaded with HP's. Not likely but could happen I guess.


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I know of a few people who will carry FMJ- Only in winter, when it is like -12 here. Because everyone is wearing their 10 layers of clothing.

But the reality is, a HP is adequate even in that situation with all the clothing.

HP's may even the odds on a through and through wound. But most self defense shootings happen within 7 yards. Odds are, FMJ, JHP, BJHP- that bullet is most likely going through the other guy. Always know your target, and what's behind it. No matter what!
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I was reading one of Massad Ayoob's books. There is a reason to go FMJ. If you live in an area where the prosecutor has a history of using the ammo used in a shooting against a defender- it might be worth it.
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