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Old 07-01-2013, 11:25 AM   #16
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No doubt it's because they don't trust the average re-loader to ensure that the round is not over-pressure (i.e. out of SAAMI specs).
True. I'm sure they wouldn't even question it unless the gun looks like it had ammo issues.

FWIW, I will be using LAX ammo in my new P226 fairly soon. I have an acquaintance that I know working there. I just need to find the time to get over there one of these days.
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I'm happy with their ammo...~2000 rounds of 9mm shot so far, with only 1 issue, a case that was pretty deformed. I've never seen a nickel plated case, btw, and that includes a cursory inspection of another 1000 rounds of 9mm and 1000 rounds each of 40S&W and 45ACP.

Although I am happy with the ammo, their customer service leaves something to be desired. They were apparently unable to return my email about a concern I had with a multi-thousand dollar order.
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I'm happy with their ammo...~2000 rounds of 9mm shot so far, with only 1 issue, a case that was pretty deformed. I've never seen a nickel plated case, btw, and that includes a cursory inspection of another 1000 rounds of 9mm and 1000 rounds each of 40S&W and 45ACP.

Although I am happy with the ammo, their customer service leaves something to be desired. They were apparently unable to return my email about a concern I had with a multi-thousand dollar order.
MULTI-THOUSAND DOLLAR ORDER?!?!?!?
Yeah you would think they would put you at the top of their list to respond to.
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True. I'm sure they wouldn't even question it unless the gun looks like it had ammo issues.

FWIW, I will be using LAX ammo in my new P226 fairly soon. I have an acquaintance that I know working there. I just need to find the time to get over there one of these days.
I know that 1 "badly deformed" case out of about 2000 is miniscule. But if they can let that through (wouldn't automated equipment or semi-automated equipment have caught that?), how many dangerously over-pressure loads get through?? Something that isn't easily detected visually??
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I know that 1 "badly deformed" case out of about 2000 is miniscule. But if they can let that through (wouldn't automated equipment or semi-automated equipment have caught that?), how many dangerously over-pressure loads get through?? Something that isn't easily detected visually??
If you don't feel comfortable, then I would advise you simply avoid reloaded ammo. In the end, it really boils down to a preference (and comfort ability).
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MULTI-THOUSAND DOLLAR ORDER?!?!?!?
Yeah you would think they would put you at the top of their list to respond to.
Yeah, you would think. And that wasn't the first such order.
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If you don't feel comfortable, then I would advise you simply avoid reloaded ammo. In the end, it really boils down to a preference (and comfort ability).
A little OT for this thread, but hopefully you all will humor me...can't defective (deformed, hot, etc.) "original" loads get through to the end user, too? It seems less likely, but we've all purchased products packaged or assembled by machines that had some glaring quality problem. Why couldn't the machine that adds the powder put a little too much?
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Who are the ones that are saying you should stay away from them???
Most gun manufacturers will void the warranty if reloads are used.

That being said, reloading is merely reusing the brass. Provided the brass used is in good condition, reloads can be just as safe as regular factory ammo. Reloading introduces too many variables and opportunities for catastrophy for gun manufacturer's legal departments to approve of.

In 9mm loads in particular, it is almost impossible to have an overpressure load, there just isn't enough room in the case to pack enough powder. You run a greater risk of a squib or short load and the subsequent damage caused by attempting to fire a round with an obstructed barrel.

Since I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on television, please take this as merely my opinion and nothing more. Should you have an issue with LAX (or any other reputable commercial reloader) ammo that causes damage to your firearm, that manufacturer should be held responsible for those damages, regardless of the extent. This is where knowing the source of your ammo becomes critical.
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Just picked up 1000 9mm reloads at LAX ammo today. It's good looking stuff. I was also able to get 500 CCI mini mag .22lr. I could have got more or even the Remington 1400 bucket o' bullets. They had plenty of .22lr - local purchase only though - they're not selling it on their website.
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I've used lax for the first time just this weekend. 9 mm and 45 LC. Good stuff. No issues in either 9 mm pistol, and the 45 was good in the Governor. Will buy more. Will also check out Georgia Arms, well.
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Remember, these are not hand reloads. Mil-spec machines. Not a mom-n-pop type reloader.
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Remember, these are not hand reloads. Mil-spec machines. Not a mom-n-pop type reloader.
Really? Good to know. The picture they show of one of their revolver cartridges have a lot of variation in overall length. I know revolvers are not sensitive to that like semi-autos. Not being a reloader myself I wonder how it affects consistency between rounds. I surely hope that they are more precise with semi-auto rounds.
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Really? Good to know. The picture they show of one of their revolver cartridges have a lot of variation in overall length. I know revolvers are not sensitive to that like semi-autos. Not being a reloader myself I wonder how it affects consistency between rounds. I surely hope that they are more precise with semi-auto rounds.
I shot about 40 rounds of 45 LC Saturday with no problems. Revolver, of course, so less sensitive.

Together, I bet my wife and I dumped about 250 rounds of the 9 mm through the two pistols with nary a problem. All brass reloads, no nickel plated in this box, so far. I don't see much variation in size/length as I'm loading. My wife loads her own mags, and didn't say anything, either.
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Fired thousands of their reloads. Good to Go.
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Most gun manufacturers will void the warranty if reloads are used.

That being said, reloading is merely reusing the brass. Provided the brass used is in good condition, reloads can be just as safe as regular factory ammo. Reloading introduces too many variables and opportunities for catastrophy for gun manufacturer's legal departments to approve of.

In 9mm loads in particular, it is almost impossible to have an overpressure load, there just isn't enough room in the case to pack enough powder. You run a greater risk of a squib or short load and the subsequent damage caused by attempting to fire a round with an obstructed barrel.

Since I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on television, please take this as merely my opinion and nothing more. Should you have an issue with LAX (or any other reputable commercial reloader) ammo that causes damage to your firearm, that manufacturer should be held responsible for those damages, regardless of the extent. This is where knowing the source of your ammo becomes critical.
although 9mm reloads can't have an overpressure load, they can have a brass failure ( which is what happened to me ). Most of the pressure blew down the magwell blowing my trigger bar out of my Beretta 92FS ( it didn't actually fall out just extend out ) and I felt a heat wave pass over my face and my firearm was smoking. Fortunately for me I had it inspected and cleared by a gunsmith, but just that incident was scary enough for me not to use reloads for a long while. Theres plenty of almost as cheap WWB I find around, especially websites that don't charge sales tax.

PS - The reloads were not from LAX but a trusted guy with "mil spec machinery", this was 1 brass failure out of 1,400 fired rounds, but it only takes 1 I guess...
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