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Old 05-17-2017, 09:02 AM   #16
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I got one of these and sit in front of the TV and decap;

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Old 05-17-2017, 02:37 PM   #17
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Old 05-18-2017, 07:53 PM   #18
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Decapping is a filthy endeavor. I would never do it in the house, as others have mentioned, regardless of the tool. And in my experience, having a dedicated decapping press makes life easy.

Lee makes the most versatile, and least expensive, decapping die on the market. The die is barely $15 and the set of universal case holders is a mere $30. Used with an inexpensive press, you can make quick work of the chore, then wipe the mess off of everything when done.

It sounds like the OP wants to set up a dedicated press for decapping, and that is ideal IMO because it sounds like he wants to run a Dillon progressive, and decapping on a progressive just introduces all that filth to your expensive and synchronized equipment. in fact, and here's where I take a left turn and mention brass processing...

Do yourself a favor and decap everything, then tumble in SS pins. Go read about it if you don't know what that is, but I can tell you with absolute certainty, your brass will be cleaner faster, and your reloading process will be cleaner if you decap first, then tumble in pins. Period. It may not be in the budget now, but it is soooo worth the set up cost. And I know, everyone's grand dad's grand dad did it a certain way , and that's the way we learn to do it, but if you follow this simple advice, you will be truly pleased with the results.

Hope this helps,

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Old 05-19-2017, 02:36 AM   #19
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I do want to set up a dedicated deacapping station in my garage but not with my dillon press. I only mentioned my dillon in reference to thats all that Im familar with and Ive only used that for one caliber in the past.

I bought last weekend an RCBS single station press for this. I recently also purchased a 9L ultrasonic cleaner which I have set up on the bench with the RCBS press. So current plan is to deprime the casings and put through the ultrasonic.

The thousand or so casings I tried so far came out very clean including insides and primer pockets but I think the tumbler does a lil nicer job of making them shiney. With that said though I will probably never use my tumbler again.

It only took about 10-20 minutes to run a batch of casings through the sonic compared to hours and hours through the tumbler, no dust mess, no having to strain all the shells out of the tumbler and best of all the sonic is near silent compared to the tumbler.

Im still experimenting with the new cleaner but think I would have no problem running a thousand or more casings through it at a time depending on which baskets / pans I use in the machine and in that regard I could put separate pans to clean guns at the same time.

Does the LEE dies work in the RCBS press?

And you are right about the decapping mess which brings to mind the RCBS partner press primer catcher sucks. I think I winded up with more primers on my garage floor than I did in the catcher. Any suggestions / recommendations are appreciated.
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Hey Philly,

Yes, the lee dies work with just about all presses, except for the Dillon SDB and a few older Lyman presses. I want to say that some 50 BMG dies are different too, but not relevant to this conversation. There's lots of people who feel that LEE offers lesser quality, yet choose to install the LEE factory crimp die because it works best and does a final sizing of the cartridge. Some folks prefer the locking rings of the Hornady over other brands, so they will mix in dies that give them the results they prefer.

Primer catcher: Most presses have a hole that the spent primer drops into once pushed free. On the LEE breech lock, the primer funnels into a tube, which directs the primer towards the floor where you can place a bucket. I found that the primers still ended up on the floor, so I added a piece of clear plastic tubing that feeds into an empty Gatorade bottle. It will catch about 3000 primers before I have to empty it. If your press funnels the primers into the inside of the press frame, just drill a hole in the table under the press frame and add a catcher of some sort beneath it.

As for the tumbler and SS pins... these pins are designed to run wet in a rotary tumbler rather than a vibratory tumbler. The rotary/SS combo only runs for about 1.5 hours to give the best result. In fact, the only time I use my vibratory tumbler is on finished cartridges to remove all lube and finger prints and give them a nice shine. 15 minutes with some good, ammonia free brass polish (Maybe 1/2 shot glass in walnut) makes the final product look like factory ammo.

I have limited experience with sonic cleaners, using a friend's industrial unit for a short time to experiment. My opinion is that they work great for cleaning the nooks and crannies of gun parts (I really like the results on this front) and it does a decent job on gently used, once fired brass. But for range brass, stained brass found after being in the sun for a month, the ss pin process scours the brass and removes any stains, deep scratches and scores, and makes it shine. I didn't start off with SS pins, but once I tried it, I never looked back.
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Do yourself a favor and decap everything, then tumble in SS pins. Go read about it if you don't know what that is, but I can tell you with absolute certainty, your brass will be cleaner faster, and your reloading process will be cleaner if you decap first, then tumble in pins. Period. It may not be in the budget now, but it is soooo worth the set up cost. And I know, everyone's grand dad's grand dad did it a certain way , and that's the way we learn to do it, but if you follow this simple advice, you will be truly pleased with the results.

Hope this helps,

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I thought about doing this, so I got around 250 pieces of brass that a friend had cleaned this way.

I found that if you reload in a 5 stage press, the brass is actually too clean and you have to use lube on around 1 in every 4 or 5 rounds to ease the resizing even if you use a carbide die as I do.

Just something to be aware of and one of the reasons I still clean brass the old way and decap in the house, as always.
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Thanks for the advice from both of you. Im perfectly happy with the ultrasonic cleaning its doing on the brass. I just throw 1,000 plus rounds in the sonic for 15 minutes, pull the basket out and rinse off in sink then leave sit in the drain board, all done. I only reload my own brass so its in good shape
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The is no one right way only the way that is right for you and we all see tumbling/cleaning a little different.

I still do it the old walnut media tumbler way and the fact it takes a while means nothing as I can leave it and come back later, whenever.

I have tens of thousand of processed cases so it is never a matter of getting them done because I need them now

I can decap in my house, no longer married (since 1984 by God's grace) never noticed it being messy
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I thought about doing this, so I got around 250 pieces of brass that a friend had cleaned this way.

I found that if you reload in a 5 stage press, the brass is actually too clean and you have to use lube on around 1 in every 4 or 5 rounds to ease the resizing even if you use a carbide die as I do.

Just something to be aware of and one of the reasons I still clean brass the old way and decap in the house, as always.
This is something I haven't encountered, because I always spray a very small amount of One Shot on my brass before I begin the sizing process. It is a gift from the gods, taking the majority of the physical effort out of running the press. A $10 can of One Shot will last for about 20,000 rounds. Just takes a spritz.

As for decapping in the house, Wuf... well, not noticing a mess, and being divorced, might be tied to each other. And while there is no one right way, there are almost always better ways, and when a person has tried most and found one that stands out as the best, it would be selfish not to spread the word.

I have my eye on that Hornady Hot Tub. I want to be able to dunk an entire Ruger super redhawk and let it simmer. I'm not against the ultra sonic, just know there is a better way for brass with wet tumbling.
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Not sure what mess decapping creates. I don't mind messy but I hate dirty.

I don't get any dirty mess from sizing/decapping cases.
All my pistol ammo is loaded on a SQDB and my 223 are sized on a Forster Bonanza which captures the primers in a small jar.
I drop the sized cases into a jar and when full I put lacquer thinner in the jar (This on my porch outside because of the obvious fumes of LT).

I just don't get the "Dirty" aspect not the way I do it

The tumbling gets dirty and that I do in the garage in fact right in the front by the door where I have a leaf blower to keep the dust blown out
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Amazing. I've been reloading in the house all my life and:

My mother never noticed any decapping mess.

My 1st wife (married 10 years) never noticed any decapping mess.

My 2nd wife (married 36 years) never noticed any decapping mess.

I didn't realize all the women in my life were blind.
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I have my eye on that Hornady Hot Tub. I want to be able to dunk an entire Ruger super redhawk and let it simmer. I'm not against the ultra sonic, just know there is a better way for brass with wet tumbling.
Thats what I have, the Hornady Hot Tub. Similarly I just recently bought it mainly for my Desert Eagle 50 AE. Those larger calibers really make a mess eh...

Its great I can break apart the DE and put it in one pan to clean while putting a load of brass in a different pan and clean both in the same 15-20 minute cycle. -
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I use the lee universal decap die in my Forster Coax press. All the shell holders are built in. A great system!
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Mess? What mess? I run all of my stuff in the house, no mess a tall.
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I suppose if you clean your brass BEFORE you decap, the mess is reduced, but there's still going to be some smudge that is in the primer pocket, so I don't believe anyone who says there's no mess. I also like a clean primer pocket, so I decap dirty brass, then tumble in SS pins and the result is near factory clean, inside and out.

For you guys who use SS pins, I recently saw a guy on one of the forums who sells stainless chip that is supposed to do a great job cleaning in a shorter amount of time. It can be used with the pins. I cannot find the link, so if anyone knows what I am talking about, maybe you can post the link?

Thanks.
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