Federal Tactical HST 9mm Jacketed Hollowpoint Expansion Testing

360glitch · 09-22-2010, 07:11 AM

This evening I had the opportunity to do a bit of expansion testing with my fresh box of Federal Tactical HST 9mm 147 grain ammunition. Nothing fancy, just a few jugs of water lined up. Shot it from maybe 7 yards and sprayed a bunch of water everywhere. Recovered the bullet and this is what I found:

Weighed 146 grains, 99.3% weight retention. Width of the expanded 147gr 9mm round... 0.655".

fastarrow · 09-27-2010, 07:31 AM

Now that is PERTTTTY! How many jugsdid you line up?

360glitch · 09-27-2010, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastarrow

Now that is PERTTTTY! How many jugsdid you line up?

Five, from what I hear it usually gets the job done up to a .40 cal round no problem. Lots of fun.

pap245 · 10-13-2010, 03:04 PM

Hmmm, I think you just made up my mind as to what to use in the 229, nice pics, thanks!

360glitch · 10-13-2010, 05:02 PM

^^ No problem, glad to help.

Jeff.Slim · 10-13-2010, 05:03 PM

Water tests are awesome if you want to see full expansion, if you want to see realistic expansion use clay

Nice test though

360glitch · 10-13-2010, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff.Slim

Water tests are awesome if you want to see full expansion, if you want to see realistic expansion use clay

Nice test though

Thanks for the tip.

BPman · 04-18-2011, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff.Slim

Water tests are awesome if you want to see full expansion, if you want to see realistic expansion use clay

Nice test though

And if you REALLY want to know what they will do use ballistic gel.

MT357Mag · 04-18-2011, 07:22 PM

Nice pic's Nice job..

360glitch · 04-18-2011, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT357Mag

Nice pic's Nice job..

Thanks, I need to do this again with my .45 ACP HST's.

garandguy · 04-20-2011, 09:49 AM

Nice job. Try the Hornandy Critical Defense 9mm out !

thndrchiken · 06-07-2011, 07:51 AM

I've been reading a lot of Massad Ayoob lately, his take is that for the most part any of the commercially available SD loads are more than adequate. Now his recommendations from real world leo involved shootings are Speer Gold Dot, Federal HST and Winchester SXT.

dave2 · 11-22-2011, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 360glitch

Thanks, I need to do this again with my .45 ACP HST's.

I am curious if you tried this test with .45 ACP HSTs? Impressive looking in a 9mm. I am trying to figure out what self defense ammo to use for my new .45 caliber P220. I thought I might try Hornady .45 XTP - $20 for 20 at Cabela's this past weekend. It was cheaper than the Hornady Critical Defense .45. I bought a couple of boxes of the XTP rounds but have not shot any yet at the range.

Thanks!

Dave

f1pap · 11-23-2011, 06:32 AM

gret pics & info! thnx

Kenny D · 12-11-2011, 01:31 PM

360Glitch, were those HST's the standard load or the +p ? By the way your "lead flower" sure is purdy!

rbgsig226 · 12-16-2011, 04:20 PM

That’s what Great Expansion is supposed to look like, awesome pictures Cory. My 147gr Black Talons look very similar.

sigp229r · 12-16-2011, 08:09 PM

VERY COOL! They remind me of the politically incorrect "Black Talon" bullets from the 90's...

360glitch · 12-17-2011, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave2

I am curious if you tried this test with .45 ACP HSTs? Impressive looking in a 9mm. I am trying to figure out what self defense ammo to use for my new .45 caliber P220. I thought I might try Hornady .45 XTP - $20 for 20 at Cabela's this past weekend. It was cheaper than the Hornady Critical Defense .45. I bought a couple of boxes of the XTP rounds but have not shot any yet at the range.

Thanks!

Dave

I've not, but I would still like to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny D

360Glitch, were those HST's the standard load or the +p ? By the way your "lead flower" sure is purdy!

Standard loads. Thanks! Ha...

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09-22-2010, 07:11 AM	#1
360glitch Forum Admin Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Clinton, MS Posts: 1,176	This evening I had the opportunity to do a bit of expansion testing with my fresh box of Federal Tactical HST 9mm 147 grain ammunition. Nothing fancy, just a few jugs of water lined up. Shot it from maybe 7 yards and sprayed a bunch of water everywhere. Recovered the bullet and this is what I found: Weighed 146 grains, 99.3% weight retention. Width of the expanded 147gr 9mm round... 0.655".

09-27-2010, 07:31 AM	#2
fastarrow Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ocean Springs, MS. Posts: 65	Now that is PERTTTTY! How many jugsdid you line up?

10-13-2010, 03:04 PM	#4
pap245 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Langhorne, Pa Posts: 12	Hmmm, I think you just made up my mind as to what to use in the 229, nice pics, thanks!

10-13-2010, 05:02 PM	#5
360glitch Forum Admin Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Clinton, MS Posts: 1,176	^^ No problem, glad to help.

10-13-2010, 05:03 PM	#6
Jeff.Slim Certified AR-15 Nut Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Roseburg, Oregon Posts: 380	Water tests are awesome if you want to see full expansion, if you want to see realistic expansion use clay Nice test though

04-18-2011, 07:22 PM	#9
MT357Mag Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 511	Nice pic's Nice job..

04-20-2011, 09:49 AM	#11
garandguy Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 256	Nice job. Try the Hornandy Critical Defense 9mm out !

06-07-2011, 07:51 AM	#12
thndrchiken Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 4	I've been reading a lot of Massad Ayoob lately, his take is that for the most part any of the commercially available SD loads are more than adequate. Now his recommendations from real world leo involved shootings are Speer Gold Dot, Federal HST and Winchester SXT.

11-23-2011, 06:32 AM	#14
f1pap Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 13	gret pics & info! thnx

12-11-2011, 01:31 PM	#15
Kenny D Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Crosby, Texas Posts: 493	360Glitch, were those HST's the standard load or the +p ? By the way your "lead flower" sure is purdy!

12-16-2011, 04:20 PM	#16
rbgsig226 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Born In Vermont, Currently in Texas Posts: 53	That’s what Great Expansion is supposed to look like, awesome pictures Cory. My 147gr Black Talons look very similar.

12-16-2011, 08:09 PM	#17
sigp229r Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: California Posts: 1,700	VERY COOL! They remind me of the politically incorrect "Black Talon" bullets from the 90's...