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steel cased ammo myths

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#1 ·
So ive had many debates over steel cased ammo in a ar15 and i personally do not see a difference ive shot a ton of it in my ar15 and glock and 1911 and have seen no abnormal wear at all . So my thoughts are the steel in your guns are alot harder than the steel in the steel cased ammo so you should not have any problems with wear and tear . However i have noticed that sometimes at a IDPA match the resin coating of the case gets hot and when your weapon is on safe mode waiting for your next run. The resin cools in your chamber and sometimes the cases stick in the chamber which causes problems but its a minimum issue compared to how much money i saved . If i can shoot 2000 rounds in my gun for 300 dollars i will gladly buy a new barrel at 6 thousand rounds because ive gotten real good with my gun . Rather than shooting 500 rounds for 400 dollars and still needing a barrel at 6 thousand rounds. Sorry for the lack of periods and commas and proper grammer . So if anyone would like to weigh in i would be glad to read everyones post
 
#2 ·
Do you regularly pay 80 cents per round for brass ammo?

500 rounds for $400?

I hope you're either embellishing or not good at math. Because if you do pay that much for 9, 45 or 223, you are being taken to the woodshed.

I also assume that your 15 cents per round example is for 9 mm. (2000 rounds for $300). That's about as low as you can typically find steel cased 9. Most often it's a few cents more than that, but I've seen it that low (just found an example online).



Anyway, I've shot some steel in my Sigs and HK and Glock. Didn't like the inconsistent performance (lack of consistent powder charge / performance), increased % of failure to fire, and the crazy levels of filth.

I won't put it through my ARs. I respect them too much. And I'll likely not use it again in my pistols if I can help it.
 
#6 ·
Go to Walmart....
Winchester white box:
200 rounds 9mm 47.77 (24c/rnd)
200 rounds 40s&w 62.63 (31c/rnd)
200 rounds 45acp 72.97 (36c/rnd)
Federal bulk pack, 100 rounds 223/556 39.97 (40c/rnd)

I haven't found the savings from steel cased ammo sold at walmart compelling enough to switch from brass. Plus, I can't fire steel cased ammo at my local range.
 
#7 · (Edited)
I've used aluminum, but I don't shoot enough, to save enough, to justify the dirty steel stuff.
Anybody got input on the Remington UMC steel cased ammo that Walmart sells in bulk?

Ok- I did a little bit of research. I am referring to the bulk yellow boxes, and it doesn't say steel, but "metal" cased. Apparently it is brass cased ammo, and instead of saying FMJ, they are calling it metal jacketed. I might try it sometime, although the Perfecta ammo is a little less expensive.
 
#10 ·
I find in most products when the cheaper route is taken in one aspect, it follows in others.
I used Wolf ammo until I had issues, and then said no more. Didn't take long.

Squib loads concern me the most.

I just do pistol with straight cases.
I got into reloading to lower my cost.
What I found was a lot of learning about guns, and the quality of the ammo improving.
I experiment and found the powders I like the most for several reasons.
Mostly clean, and good power, adjusted exactly how I like it.

I still shoot some factory for new brass, and it just isn't as good sometimes.
 
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#11 ·
My AR would not know how to act if I fed it brass, it has eaten wolf steel its whole life. 6000 rounds down pipe no problems and its not that dirty. The extractor and ejector still look fine.
 
#12 ·
steel case vs brass ammunition

Im not saying that steel case is better than brass by any standards. all im saying is it should not get the cold shoulder because it isnt better its great for practice so you can save your brass. And i run standard milspec ar15's and have had minor issues like i said in my previous post. But if you have 0 malfunctions how can you learn to fix and run your weapon in the event that it does malfunction and it can and will malfunction eventually
 
#15 ·
Im not saying that steel case is better than brass by any standards. all im saying is it should not get the cold shoulder because it isnt better its great for practice so you can save your brass. And i run standard milspec ar15's and have had minor issues like i said in my previous post. But if you have 0 malfunctions how can you learn to fix and run your weapon in the event that it does malfunction and it can and will malfunction eventually
Not sure if you're serious here.

You start a new account and your first thread is full of edgy wording, a few of us respond with either data or actual hands-on experience, and you complain about getting the cold shoulder?

Very odd.

I mean, you're free to make your own choices, no one is disputing that at all.

And as far as malfunction drills, I can use empty brass and snap caps loaded into my mags at random intervals to more safely simulate malfunction clearance drills.
 
#18 ·
I recently purchased a century arms c308 g3 rifle and it is awsome bought it from atlantic firearms website for 653 with shipping and bought 10 mags for 2.97 a piece and 500 rounds of 150 gr 308 for 179 and first time out with it was slamming 8 inch steel plate at 100 with irons no problem at all took it out to 300 and hit 11 out of 20 not bad at all . Fit and finish and function are extremely well done only function test your mags before you go shoot because the massive bolt will crush the bullet into the case so make sure all of your mags work since they are used surplus mags . Overall it is one of the best purchases ive made yet. Cant wait to throw some glass on it and push it to its maximum potential
 
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