What self defense ammo do you carry?

360glitch · 09-22-2010, 08:14 PM

After lots of research and some testing of my own I carry Federal HST jacketed hollowpoints. What do you carry?

Volzfan · 09-24-2010, 08:15 AM

Golden Saber

dlm1188 · 10-09-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 360glitch

After lots of research and some testing of my own I carry Federal HST jacketed hollowpoints. What do you carry?

I use Federal HST jacked hollow point as well, by solely by the recommendation of a friend whom is in private security. Out of curiosity, what kinda of testing did you do? I've been trying to find a defensive round that will get the job done, but since I live in an apartment, I'm concerned about wall penetration. I don't have a ton of money to throw around so I really can't afford to do any testing on my own. I was thinking of getting some 135 grain Federal HST JHP for my .40 and leave it at that, until I can do testing on a few brands.

360glitch · 10-10-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dlm1188

I use Federal HST jacked hollow point as well, by solely by the recommendation of a friend whom is in private security. Out of curiosity, what kinda of testing did you do? I've been trying to find a defensive round that will get the job done, but since I live in an apartment, I'm concerned about wall penetration. I don't have a ton of money to throw around so I really can't afford to do any testing on my own. I was thinking of getting some 135 grain Federal HST JHP for my .40 and leave it at that, until I can do testing on a few brands.

Love the HST, check my thread here for more details: http://www.sigtalk.net/index.php?/to...nsion-testing/

Jeff.Slim · 10-11-2010, 09:47 AM

My mags are loaded with different things: (all .45ACP)

Corbon Pow'rball

230 grain Federal HST

230 grain Winchester Black Talon

230 grain Remington Golden Saber

some just have 230 grain hardball.

dlm1188 · 10-11-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Slim

My mags are loaded with different things: (all .45ACP)

Corbon Pow'rball

230 grain Federal HST

230 grain Winchester Black Talon

230 grain Remington Golden Saber

some just have 230 grain hardball.

Hey Jeff, I've heard a buit about the win. black talon rounds. I was told they stopped producing them, so only people that stocked up have them. Is this your experience? Also, how do you like them as a defense round?

360glitch · 10-11-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SEMPERFInk

Hey Jeff, I've heard a buit about the win. black talon rounds. I was told they stopped producing them, so only people that stocked up have them. Is this your experience? Also, how do you like them as a defense round?

I can confirm that they have stopped producing them long ago, however there latest and greatest round is the "Ranger T" series. You guessed it, T stands for Talon. Some argue the newer technology used in them makes them superior to Black Talons, however I do not think and bullet will overshadow the Black Talon's infamous "history".

Jeff.Slim · 10-11-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 360glitch

I can confirm that they have stopped producing them long ago, however there latest and greatest round is the "Ranger T" series. You guessed it, T stands for Talon. Some argue the newer technology used in them makes them superior to Black Talons, however I do not think and bullet will overshadow the Black Talon's infamous "history".

The history and notorious name is what gets all the attention. As a carry round I love it.

I am in love with the Talon for one reason, it does more damage on initial entry than versus having to travel and open up, because of the design of the talon it does most of its effects right away vs. standard hollow points that have to open up first. The "sharp" edges of the talon once open are what can cause immense additional damage.

But the bullet can't make up for aim or the shooter

dlm1188 · 10-11-2010, 10:22 AM

That's what I discovered on wikipedia, but I never trust what I read on there. I'll stick with Federal HST for now, but I've always wanted to run a black talon through my 30-06 and see what kind of damage it would do to a stack of phonebooks.

dlm1188 · 10-11-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Slim

But the bullet can't make up for aim or the shooter

Very true

Volzfan · 10-11-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Slim

But the bullet can't make up for aim or the shooter

Dang!

Jeff.Slim · 10-11-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SEMPERFInk

That's what I discovered on wikipedia, but I never trust what I read on there. I'll stick with Federal HST for now, but I've always wanted to run a black talon through my 30-06 and see what kind of damage it would do to a stack of phonebooks.

I can tell you the amount of damage I have done to blocks of clay with a talon vs. HST or ball or Sabers is insanely more damage. I will have to run Ranger "T" vs. a Talon at some point to see what happens.

360glitch · 10-11-2010, 10:42 AM

When I did my HST testing I shot a round of Ranger T as well. Did not look as pretty but certainly still opened up with it's sharp "talons" ready to do what needs to be done.

Slim, my dad has some 30-06 Black Talons, I might have to see if I can snag one from him and see what I can do with it.

Jeff.Slim · 10-11-2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Slim

I can tell you the amount of damage I have done to blocks of clay with a talon vs. HST or ball or Sabers is insanely more damage. I will have to run Ranger "T" vs. a Talon at some point to see what happens.

That would be sweet.

360glitch · 10-11-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff.Slim

That would be sweet.

Quote the wrong post? Lol

Jeff.Slim · 10-11-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 360glitch

Quote the wrong post? Lol

hahaha OOPS

black88is · 10-19-2010, 03:10 PM

229 SIG 357 SIG------ speer gold dot 125gr. gdhp

model 57 s&w--------winchester 175gr. silvertips

model 29 s&w--------buffalo bore 240gr. soft nose

pf9 kel tec--------------cor bon dpx 115gr. jhp +p

rbgsig226 · 10-20-2010, 07:15 AM

Originally I used the Winchester 147gr "Black Talon" in 9mm. As the previous posters stated, production of that round was stopped. I now use the closest replacement to that round, Winchester Ranger SXT 147gr. in my 226 and never had any problems.

tdyoung58 · 10-21-2010, 03:18 PM

In my SIG 1911 C3 Remington 185g +p Golden Sabers (only cuz the Hornaday's won't feed right)

In my SIG P238 Hornaday XTP's, the newer version CD or whatever they're calling them now with the shiney cases... LOL

sigp229r · 10-25-2010, 07:52 PM

Remington Golden Saber and Winchester SXT

But for my .380 - Federal Hydra Shok

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09-22-2010, 08:14 PM	#1
360glitch Forum Admin Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Clinton, MS Posts: 1,176	After lots of research and some testing of my own I carry Federal HST jacketed hollowpoints. What do you carry?

09-24-2010, 08:15 AM	#2
Volzfan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Big Orange Country Posts: 434	Golden Saber

10-11-2010, 09:47 AM	#5
Jeff.Slim Certified AR-15 Nut Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Roseburg, Oregon Posts: 380	My mags are loaded with different things: (all .45ACP) Corbon Pow'rball 230 grain Federal HST 230 grain Winchester Black Talon 230 grain Remington Golden Saber some just have 230 grain hardball.

10-11-2010, 10:22 AM	#9
dlm1188 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: California Posts: 472	That's what I discovered on wikipedia, but I never trust what I read on there. I'll stick with Federal HST for now, but I've always wanted to run a black talon through my 30-06 and see what kind of damage it would do to a stack of phonebooks.

10-11-2010, 10:42 AM	#13
360glitch Forum Admin Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Clinton, MS Posts: 1,176	When I did my HST testing I shot a round of Ranger T as well. Did not look as pretty but certainly still opened up with it's sharp "talons" ready to do what needs to be done. Slim, my dad has some 30-06 Black Talons, I might have to see if I can snag one from him and see what I can do with it.

10-19-2010, 03:10 PM	#17
black88is Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: st. louis, mo. Posts: 4	229 SIG 357 SIG------ speer gold dot 125gr. gdhp model 57 s&w--------winchester 175gr. silvertips model 29 s&w--------buffalo bore 240gr. soft nose pf9 kel tec--------------cor bon dpx 115gr. jhp +p

10-20-2010, 07:15 AM	#18
rbgsig226 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Born In Vermont, Currently in Texas Posts: 53	Originally I used the Winchester 147gr "Black Talon" in 9mm. As the previous posters stated, production of that round was stopped. I now use the closest replacement to that round, Winchester Ranger SXT 147gr. in my 226 and never had any problems.

10-21-2010, 03:18 PM	#19
tdyoung58 Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 13	In my SIG 1911 C3 Remington 185g +p Golden Sabers (only cuz the Hornaday's won't feed right) In my SIG P238 Hornaday XTP's, the newer version CD or whatever they're calling them now with the shiney cases... LOL

10-25-2010, 07:52 PM	#20
sigp229r Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: California Posts: 1,700	Remington Golden Saber and Winchester SXT But for my .380 - Federal Hydra Shok