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Old 09-08-2011, 11:09 AM   #1
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I have a Sig 226 9MM and most of my shooting is from a distance of 21 feet.



When I ware glass that allow me to see the sights the target is always fuzzy… and if I wear glasses that allowed me to see the target the sights were blurry.



Afterthinking about this for a little while, I decide that I would buying a pair of1.25 reading glass from Walgreens pharmacy and see how they would work.



Wellnow I can see the sights 90% better and also see the target at 21 feet… now mygrouping is 3” for 25 shots @21 feet.



Ifyou are having a problem with wearing Rx Glasses, try going to a pharmacy… tryon a pair of reading glasses… hold out your hand and if you see the end of yourhand where the sight would be and you can see the back wall... then try them thenext time you shoot.



One last thing I have the Sig Night Sights by adding a little White Paint to the front sight also helped.



This worked for me and I hope it will helps other.




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thanks for the post. I may have to try this out.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:14 PM   #3
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Great Post......you just articulated the exact issue I have with my eyes...glasses on...sights fuzzy...glasses off...target fuzzy...bifoculs....shoot foot off...

One other question for the field...I am considering Lasik...based on the prognosis above....Has anyone had or know of anyone with similar vision prior to Lasik and how did the procedure effect their shooting after......thx
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Thanks for this! I have the same problem, I've been tilting up to see the target and then over my glasses to see the sights and aim towards the middle of the fuzz on the target. I'll try some reading glasses.
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I tried the reading glasses, no help, it made the target more fuzzy.
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I have a Sig 226 9MM and most of my shooting is from a distance of 21 feet.



When I ware glass that allow me to see the sights the target is always fuzzy€ and if I wear glasses that allowed me to see the target the sights were blurry.



Afterthinking about this for a little while, I decide that I would buying a pair of1.25 reading glass from Walgreens pharmacy and see how they would work.



Wellnow I can see the sights 90% better and also see the target at 21 feet€ now mygrouping is 3€ for 25 shots @21 feet.



Ifyou are having a problem with wearing Rx Glasses, try going to a pharmacy€ tryon a pair of reading glasses€ hold out your hand and if you see the end of yourhand where the sight would be and you can see the back wall... then try them thenext time you shoot.



One last thing I have the Sig Night Sights by adding a little White Paint to the front sight also helped.



This worked for me and I hope it will helps other.




Littlebob



Let me see your arms are getting too short too. Sounds like you need bi focals young man getting older.
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i'm glad it worked but am having a hard time understanding the sites being clear with the readers but 21 ft away clear enough to see the target.

i wear bi-focals & i see a blur on the 47" tv at 12ft, if i use the reader/lower part of bi-focal.
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Remember, when using sights, you want your focus on the Front Blade with that dot becoming like a big soccer ball as you see each scratch and dent on the blade. The rear sight will be fuzzy as well as your target, but practice it and you'll soon find your accuracy and target acquisition will dramatically improve. It will change the way you shoot. I have watched so many young shooters try to see three things at different distances at one time and get so frustrated. You can't, forget sharp multi-point vision (impossible), your mind can still position the front blade correctly in the rear sight and still "see" your target. This is a mental discipline requiring effort and practice. Where's Yoda when you need him?
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My answer is get to the doc and tell him you are a shooter when you order the glasses...at 61 yrs young now, I started back to do Bullseye Competition after a layoff of 10 ten years when mobilized for Iraq War.

10 yrs ago, open site no problem, 10 yrs ago red dot no problem....today at 61, front site blurred and so did the "reader" thing as you. Remember Targets are to be blurred, front site crisp. However, when I use the dot with another gun, the readers are no help.

I may have to get glasses that are "PROGRESSIVES" again which essentially are a bi-focal but can't be discerned by others and they gradually step up or down as needed. I had to do this in my 40's awhile but my eye muscles somehow came back. A slight tilt of your head up/down and whatever you want in focus will be in focus. I had a shooting glasses made as well as normal glasses and can't use them because the prescription has changed for me.

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EyePal

Yes, in competition you're supposed to concentrate on the front sight and let the target go out of focus. If you want to try a different approach from Rx glasses try EyePal an inexpensive vinyl stick on or the Merit Optical Attachment which works well but costs a lot more.

I shoot in a bullseye league and many use these. Works like a peep sight.
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Thanks Littlebob,

I have the opposite problem, my glasses help me see the target - with them on the front sight is harder to get in focus.

It seems the white paint would be a great idea and would be helpful. Is this a common and accepted practive in the gun world, to put white paint on the front site?
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I have a Sig 226 9MM and most of my shooting is from a distance of 21 feet.

One last thing I have the Sig Night Sights by adding a little White Paint to the front sight also helped.



This worked for me and I hope it will helps other.




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I tried the Progressives and they suck for shooting. Wasted almost 700.00.
I'm just going to try to erase 30 years.
I just practice quick draw and focus on the front sight. Really helps train the eye/brain focus.


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My answer is get to the doc and tell him you are a shooter when you order the glasses...at 61 yrs young now, I started back to do Bullseye Competition after a layoff of 10 ten years when mobilized for Iraq War.

10 yrs ago, open site no problem, 10 yrs ago red dot no problem....today at 61, front site blurred and so did the "reader" thing as you. Remember Targets are to be blurred, front site crisp. However, when I use the dot with another gun, the readers are no help.

I may have to get glasses that are "PROGRESSIVES" again which essentially are a bi-focal but can't be discerned by others and they gradually step up or down as needed. I had to do this in my 40's awhile but my eye muscles somehow came back. A slight tilt of your head up/down and whatever you want in focus will be in focus. I had a shooting glasses made as well as normal glasses and can't use them because the prescription has changed for me.
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Fuzzy Sights and Lasik

As my eye doctor put it, it's a side effect of too many birthdays.
I had lasik done. Have worn glasses for 37 years. Had lasik is the hopes
that I would not need glasses. I still need readers. had the mono vision done, which made the right eye distance, left eye close up. It's a very exact but inexact science. Everyone does not heal the same and your eyes do change.
I like not having to wear glasses all of the time. Mono vision reduces your night vision even more. And since they did the left eye for close up I am learning to sight w/ my left eye. It's no as fuzzy as my right eye. Many peoples brain don't allow them to focus well with the mono vision lasik as they would like.
It is evidenced by trying to use simple magnifying readers. After a few minutes reading every thing gets blurry. I do better with prescription multifocal lens. I still see best with the try focals. And if I have the time and can take the time, to find the right lens to use I will shoot the best with try focals. Here's the rub, I don't carry them very often that is why I had the lasik done in the first place, it's also lets me wear a pair of cheap sun glasses.
The reality is this,if I really need to shoot for self defense I won't have time
to aim. I have always felt it is more of a point and shoot. If some one is far enough away from you that you have to aim with precision they are not likely an immediate threat.
For years many trainers have taught the method of both eyes open,
bringing the gun up to the point where your peripheral vision can pick up the front sight, or the end of the barrel.
I saw Bill Jordan put on a demo, he wrote No Second Chances, it was about his days as a border patrol agent. He would draw and shoot poker chips and even aspirin from a few feet quick draw style. From the hip. He was in his late seventies when he demonstrated the technique.
So much for all the fancy sights.
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Trifocals, eye surgeries, cheaters,....just as you said, helps most, varies with the others. I met Bill Jordan and have his autographed "NO SECOND PLACE WINNERS" book. When I shook his hand, my hand felt like a childs hand in his. Big handed fellow.

Point Shooting is correct. I just put a laser and light on a home defense gun (point shooting in black on black darkness is still risky) which helps me rely more on it then my eyes focused on a front sight. Love it and will worry about front sites at the range. Shot a 290-10x NMC this past week so, guess I'm still hanging in there at 62yrs of age.

Now, point shooting in daylight with my outside concealed carry gun will have to be reliance on all the basics.

You made the right assessment...point shooting distance when the threat is in the "immediate distance" will justify lethal force to protect yourself from immediate death or serious body injury.
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I have finally learned to use my progressives/tri-focals effectively with pistol and rifle in IDPA and Bullseye competitions. I went skeet shooting for the first time in years, however, and the glasses didn't do me any favors at all. Fortunately, in skeet shooting you are not supposed to focus on your sight at all. Once I relearned that, I switched over to general shooting glasses as my far sightedness was good enough for that and did OK. I found peripheral vision is more important than clarity to many skeet shots.

I definitely need my tri's in static target pistol shooting though.
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