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Old 09-05-2012, 11:53 AM   #16
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When I was in Iraq (89b ammunition specialist [yay my experience matters]) the only ammo that we had concerns about overheating were highly specialized guided bombs/missiles. We stored our ammo in Milvans which are glorified ovens in the summer sun and never had a cook off from the heat.

I carry at work... but my work doesn't have a policy concerning weapons in the employee handbook, but I'm not about to ask any questions.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:54 AM   #17
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Txshurricane, If you're suggesting what I think you are, then you're going onto very thin ice there. If you ignore a company's rules against concealed carry, whether covered under federal statutes or not, you still could face loss of your job and possibly your carry permit as well. Management can pretty ruthless when they want to set an example.
I'd rather lose my job and my license than lose my life.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:52 PM   #18
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Roger that, If it's a high risk environment, do what you have to. Just remember the golden rule - don't get caught.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:48 PM   #19
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What kind of place do you work at, where you would actually follow the "no handgun" rule? Are there combustible materials around or something?
us gov't faciilty that has signs upon entry to property & individual buildings, "no guns, knives or other weapons", nope.

to me a federal firearms violations trumps 2nd amendment personal rights.

& btw, get involved in an accident on federal property, show drivers license, when it's run, they see ccw like any other le agency running the license & now might just have probable cause to search vehicle for firearms.

my $ 0.02
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:51 PM   #20
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The company I work for is very strict on weapons. They have fired people before because they've left a rifle and/or shotgun in a case in plain sight inside their own locked vehicle on property. With that being said I do know they're not allowed inside your locked vehicle to be able to search for a concealed weapon.

I do agree with txshurricane as far as public places go (ie my local mall) that likes to have their no concealed weapon sign on the door which only means they can ask you to leave if they find your carrying then could have you charged with trespassing if you refuse to leave, but as far as my job goes I don't carry on my body. Just don't ask to search my car
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Bearone2, Yeah, I had an encounter with a guy working the gate at Ft. Jackson a few years back on that issue. I was there to pick up some meds for one of my parents. He asked if there were any weapons in the car, When I told him that I had a carry permit, and yes, my weapon was in the glovebox, he said that I would have to park at a nearby Wal Mart and walk in to the pharmacy.(About half a mile). It was an unpleasant lesson, but certainly preferable to being escorted to the stockade for trying to bring a weapon into a federal facility.
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Where I live it's 100 degrees + all summer and high humidity. None of my jobs would ever let me carry on prem. Stays locked in the glove compartment. As long as it's out of the sun, and you oil it at least once a month you shouldn't have a problem. I never have.
On prem I carry my folding knife so at least I have something. I don't know if that violates company policy because it only states information about guns so I don't care. I have to pay my bills so i abide by the no carry on prem rule. God forbid I print or show, accidentally, I'd be out the door. IN this economy that could mean bankruptcy, you never know.
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IF i were going to carry at work I would get a subcompact like my 938 and front pocket carry. Not worth my job to do so. I move the car so it's literally just outside the front door, and the security guard is right there. would be a balsy MF to try anything
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to me a federal firearms violations trumps 2nd amendment personal rights
To me a job that requires me to give up any Constitutional right is a job not worth having.
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I appreciate the spirit in which this comment is made, but Constitutional rights aren't absolute. See about yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.




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To me a job that requires me to give up any Constitutional right is a job not worth having.
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I work as an unarmed Security Officer (using the term guard is akin to calling a police officer a Barney) so it would be a felony for me to carry. I don't see a risk great enough to risk losing the right to own a gun, so I abide by the law. In fact I can see the logic in banning concealed carry by *unarmed* security. When you are representing some sort of official authority (and on property, I do have authority, albeit limited) you shouldn't have a hidden weapon, that's just bad form.

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I appreciate the spirit in which this comment is made, but Constitutional rights aren't absolute. See about yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
*eyeroll*

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I appreciate the spirit in which this comment is made, but Constitutional rights aren't absolute. See about yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
If you want to yell "Fire!" badly enough, a theater is one place that you wouldn't patronize. Likewise, my desire to exercise my right to bear a firearm influences me not to bother working at places that prohibit it. That's all I'm saying.

But I'll go further and say that people who don't consider their God-given rights to be "absolute" are bound to lose them altogether. To each their own.
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To me a job that requires me to give up any Constitutional right is a job not worth having.
I hate to break it to you, but most major corporations/companies do not allow employees to carry weapons of any type on company property.

Someone isn't going to give up a six-figure salary just to make a statement. No sane person anyways.
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I think the point is that maintenance of individual rights requires responsible citizens to show some judgement in their exercise.

We can debate about where the line should be drawn, but society entails compromise.




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If you want to yell "Fire!" badly enough, a theater is one place
that you wouldn't patronize. Likewise, my desire to exercise my right to bear a firearm influences me not to bother working at places that prohibit it. That's all I'm saying.

But I'll go further and say that people who don't consider their God-given rights to be "absolute" are bound to lose them altogether. To each their own.
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Hurricane makes some points if he is willing to risk it then I say more power to him.

That being said i suggest filing a formal petition to allow Legal ccw holders to carry on premises. It probably won't effect anything other than gain you a few extra training sessions about company policies but if you can round up enough support who knows.
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