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Old 11-29-2012, 01:59 PM   #1
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OPEN Carry

On November 1, 2012, Oklahoma became an Open Carry state, by a bill signed off by the Governor.

The forum I'd like to kick off is: What are the Pros and Cons of having Open Carry?

I'll start off by giving my $2: I already had a concealed carry permit when this bill went into effect. I will continue to carry concealed and will not open carry. I've spoken with several Tulsa PD officers to ask their opinion. You can imagine the responses I received. I won't open carry because you've just placed a big target on your back. 1) I'd rather not have the eyes of any LEA on me. I prefer to go on about my business blending in with the rest of the crowd. 2) If you were your gun on your hip, you have targeted yourself for the guy wanting to steal your gun, and perhaps even use it on you. Not good. 3) If I was a criminal planning on robbing a grocery store, for example, the first thing I'm going to look for is any armed threats that may try to thwart my criminal enterprise. This would include any LEO, security officer, or any openly armed customer. I would target them first.

I really can't see any reason for open carry, but I can see many reasons to carry concealed. I know some will say that the more the merrier, but wouldn't it be more of a deterrent if the criminal looked around and thought, "What if everyone in here has a gun!?!?". Naahh, I'll just be the Ninja!
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:29 PM   #2
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I mostly agree with you. Open carry isn't legal in Texas, but I don't think I'd open carry if I could. Open carry is a double-edged sword. On the one hand it has the advantage of serving as a deterrent to crime and let everyone know that you're not someone to be messed with. But on the other hand, as you said, anyone who's obviously carrying a gun immediately becomes a target including police, security, or any other legal gun toters. Also, as anyone who's been in the military will attest to, some of your biggest weapons are stealth, camouflage, and surprise. Openly carrying a firearm in a public place removes all three of those valuable weapons from your arsenal. I personally don't think the advantages of open carry outweigh the risks, so I'd just as soon keep my guns out of sight.

About the only thing I like about open carry laws is it decriminalizes accidentally exposing a concealed weapon in public, the laws on which vary greatly from place to place.
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:56 PM   #3
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I can. I have. I don't. 100% for the right to do so, but I carry for self defense, not to shock a bystander into a debate or make a point. I will agree that I really don't care if I print or if I accidentally show the gun in public because of open carry.
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I can. I have. I don't. 100% for the right to do so, but I carry for self defense, not to shock a bystander into a debate or make a point. I will agree that I really don't care if I print or if I accidentally show the gun in public because of open carry.
Well said. I carry for defense, not on philosophical grounds.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:17 PM   #5
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For me the fact that now in OK if you accidently expose your weapon it is no longer a violation. IMHO the open carry folks will be the first smoked and that leaves me as the wisely concelaed carrier the ability to respond. Surprise is one of your biggest weapons. Concealed gives me the option that I may or may not respond with a a weapon and just be a good witness.
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either way in az but why advertise.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:48 PM   #7
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I completely agree with the opinions of open carry so far. I think it is pretty pointless to open carry on your trip to walmart. Here in Oregon open carry is legal so the only time I open carry is when I am out in the woods hunting or camping. Less people to worry about and it is more comfortable when you are hiking or what not. Just my .02 cents.
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For me, it's like all matters of personal conviction, not other people's business.
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I completely agree with the opinions of open carry so far. I think it is pretty pointless to open carry on your trip to walmart. Here in Oregon open carry is legal so the only time I open carry is when I am out in the woods hunting or camping. Less people to worry about and it is more comfortable when you are hiking or what not. Just my .02 cents.
That makes sense to me. If you live in a rural area where hunting and other outdoor activities take place, seeing a gun is much less likely to freak you out than if you live in a city where people don't even see the occasional pickup truck gun rack.

I'm just trying to understand the positives, because like so many of you have stated, stealth is one of our biggest weapons and I just dont understand why anyone would want to show the best card you're holding.
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I have my CWP in Florida and its good for 34 states. If I was to open carry, you can bet I have something bigger concealed. In Florida it is legal to open carry while hunting or fishing and that is the only place I feel its necessary to do so, mostly for comfort. I like to wear my tactical chest rig out in the swamp, keeps everything dryer!
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In Virginia you can open carry and conceal (with a permit). I have in the past open carried, I choose not to now. In my opinion, like others have said, open carrying makes you a target. There was a CWP holder that was open carrying here in Richmond a few years back and an armed gunman tried to rob him at gunpoint for his wallet and firearm (Shocking). The victim of the crime caught a few rounds killing him instantly. I carry everywhere but it is my decision to conceal.

" 48yr old Blaine Tyler was open carrying a handgun when he was attacked by two 16yr olds who removed his firearm and shot him with it. The firearm was used in another robbery/fatality a few hours later." -Richmond times dispatch.

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You lose the surprise element and stand a great chance of being stripped of your weapon! A fool's choice, in my opinion.....
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:49 PM   #14
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I live in VA, where, as mentioned above, it is legal to open carry.

Here is another reason not to: The other day I saw a guy at the meat section at Walmart with a large handgun holstered openly on his hip. He was clearly not LEO, and he made everyone around him nervous and uncomfortable.

Better to pack your heat discreetly, for everyone's sake.
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I live in Oklahoma and I have a CC permit. I have not noticed an outbreak guns in open carry, most still conceal and carry in Oklahoma City.
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