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I did a search for this but did not find an answer so I'll just ask. What kind of reasons are there for one state not honoring a CCW from another state, reciprocity? I carry Ohio and travel a lot to Atlanta and once in a while Pennsylvania. Both PA. and GA. do not honor my permit. I know this is an agreement between our state governments, what are some of the reasons for not allowing?
California does not recognize permits for any State except for here. We don't even have a uniform application and approval process between counties. If the Feds wanted to do something right for a change, they would propose a uniform "Shall Issue" law that encompasses all States and reciprococity is mandatory.
Ohio law gives the Attorney General the right to negotiate concealed carry handgun reciprocity agreements with other states.
Under such agreements, Ohio and other states agree to respect each other's concealed carry laws and recognize each other's permit holders.
In assessing whether to enter a reciprocity agreement, the Attorney General must determine if another state's concealed carry law and requirements are "substantially comparable" to Ohio's.
Ohio has reciprocity agreements with the following states. Click on the state name for more details about the agreement.
I think your answer is within the 3rd paragraph. Ohio requires the other state's requirements to be similar to their own. Some states will only reciprocate if it's 2way. GA would seem to be one of those states, I clicked on states who honor GA and states which GA honors and except for VT the map stayed the same(the only other change is some states will only honor resident licenses). VT doesn't require a permit for anyone, and they don't issue one to anyone, so many states can't simply allow anyone from VT to carry...so VT "honors" all and some don't honor VT.
GA may have easier requirements which your AG is not comfortable with, so OH doesn't honor GA and GA doesn't honor OH. I don;t know and I'm not saying that is the case (very well could be) but that is a possibility. I didn't check PA but you get the idea. You might check with GA and PA and see how difficult it is to get a non-resident permit, if it's not too bad it would solve your problem.
bearone2 I had the feeling it had something to do with required training. I lived northeast of Atl. several years back. No criminal convictions and about $50 got you a carry permit. Not sure if its changed since then.
Indiana recognizes ALL other state carry licenses under the conditions that it was granted by that state. For instance, if your state lic says you must carry concealed then it has to be concealed in Indiana.
I'm confused by this...
Are you saying that (for example) a Utah non-resident permit will NOT be valid in Indiana? I'm an Illinois resident with the Utah non-res permit and travel to Indiana often... concealing!
Once I get to Indiana of course.
I, too, have an Ohio CCW. Not answering your specific question, but I got a Utah non-resident permit which gives me the ability to legally carry in the states I would ever want to visit, including PA and GA.
Ohio dropped Georgia in January. It was over the fact that the requirements for a GA ccw don't involve any type of training. just got my ccw here in Oct cost me $72.
I am getting UT, as well as VA hopefully... both nonresident, but WITH training. As a Marylander, I am totally screwed in my own state, but travel elsewhere enough to get it anyway. I was in PA and had my permit at age 21, but after moving MD 2 years ago... I think I should have stayed in PA.
Get the Utah CCW, you can do it online. I have not done this yet. I live in Pa, but my work takes me to MD, OH, WV. I believe, don't quote me, but you would be covered with the UT CCW.
UT non-resident permit is NOT available online! Training is required from a Utah approved and certified instructor, a passport type photo and fingerprints are required, none of which can be done online!
Of the six states bordering PA only WV has reciprocity with PA. I'm applying for an AZ permit which will allow me to carry in Ohio and Delaware along with five other states that PA does not have an agreement.
The fine state of GA will issue a license without any safety training.
In SC my license looks just like my driver's license and we are required eight hours of training along with 50 rounds fired from our handgun. SC does not recognize GA's permit because of the lack of training, and GA does not recognize ours. (we also fight over land on the banks of the Savannah River. The river changes it's route so much it is difficult to keep up with what state the land is in. The rule is to use the original route from many years ago)
When we travel from SC to Columbus, OH we are ok everywhere except GA; even ok in FL except you have to go through GA to get to FL.
Yes, OH honors RESIDENT permits issued by SC. They don't, however, honor ANY NON-resident permits issued by ANY state. For instance, PA RESIDENT permits are not honored by OH. A PA CHL holder can apply for an AZ NON-resident permit, but that NON-resident permit is not honored by OH. My OH RESIDENT permit is NOT honored by WI, but my UT NON-resident permit IS, making me now legal to carry when I go to a Packers game in GB (I'm not allowed to carry inside Lambeau, however!)
I know this can be confusing but there are some inaccuracies in a few prior posts to this thread!
Here is a link to the best explanation I've found:
The first map that comes up on this site is "States that Honor My Permit(s)". On that map, if you click on the state in which you are a resident, it will show you which states honor your RESIDENT permit. While your state of residence is selected, you can then select a second state, which would represent a state from which you receive a NON-resident permit. This will then show you all the states in which your chosen combination of RESIDENT and NON-resident permits will be honored.
May not minimize the confusion but it is a concise collection of the facts pertaining to reciprocity and resident/non-resident permits.
I contacted the Ohio Attorney General's office to ask why Colorado was not a reciprocity state. Much to my surprise I got a call with an answer that same morning.
He said Ohio would like to have reciprocity with Colorado but Ohio requires it to be formal with a written agreement. Colorado's legislature apparently does not give anyone authority to sigh such an agreement, so Ohio cannot do a deal with them. There are plenty of informal agreements, such as I'll honor yours if you honor mine, but Ohio does not do those, only formal written ones.
I hope this helps.
Ron
Really easy to get florida and PA non-resident permits. Just do that and you won't have to worry about it anymore. You can get a PA non res permit by going to any sheriff office, showing your home state permit, and $26. Took me 15 minutes. Florida is a liitle more indepth but but not a hassle. Their department of agriculture issue permits.
As PaSig said get a nonresident Utah permit. All the CCW courses here in MN offer it. I don't think it's added rage time just classroom time and fees. UT covers 42 (??) States. AZ is considered non reciprocal because you don't need a permit for CCW.
This all boils down to "politics" in the end. The Constitution guarantees your right but politicians want to be dictators ultimately and want to control everything you do and ultimately lay claim to all your money.
In politics believe the opposite of what is said and what titles say and the longer the title the more oppressive. "The People's Republic of China" very long title and very oppresive and it is certainly not a republic for the people. "Progressives" is another good one, they would all have us living as serfs in a fuedal time with them as "lords". Politics is all disgusting, I prefer freedom to politics.
One thing that's important to remember about reciprocity is that there are often subtle differences in the laws between states that recognize each other.
You've got to be sure you understand the specifics for the state you are in, even if your home permit allows you to carry there.
The whole issue of concealed carry should have a different look in June when the Supreme Court decide if a discretionary approach to granting a concealed carry license is or is not constitutional.
Thus far it looks as the majority leans towards unconstitutionality. It would mean that there will be no state like California that could deny a license just because the sheriff or police chief feel like doing it. But the Supremes are unpredictable. We shall see.
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