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Old 11-30-2016, 12:19 PM   #16
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I tried to zoom in on them, but it might be too much. I'm still trying to figure out myself what they are.



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Old 11-30-2016, 12:20 PM   #17
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Interesting. Based on this resource and my ability to make out your markings, you either have a nitro-proofed P6 slide that is ready for action, or a slide proofed for "special purposes" whose ability to sustain live fire cannot be validated.

http://www.nramuseum.com/media/940944/proofmarks.pdf

Can you post a better-resolution picture of the proof marks under the chin?

Edit: we posted at the same time. To me, that looks more like the "special purpose" proof. Unlucky. Hard to say for sure though.

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Thanks DBS, I forgot about that. My P6 trainer has proof marks. I imagine the OP's does too.
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This is about as good as I can get with my phone.







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Old 11-30-2016, 12:33 PM   #20
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Mine has the same proof marks
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Old 11-30-2016, 12:36 PM   #21
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Its difficult to tell what is under the German Eagle (bottom mark).... almost looks like BMI, BMJ, not exactly sure.
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Old 11-30-2016, 12:37 PM   #22
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Its difficult to tell what is under the German Eagle (bottom mark).... almost looks like BMI, BMJ, not exactly sure.
Agree. I've never seen either of those marks before.

But with the better image quality, I'm not sure anymore that it's a "special purpose" mark. Which brings us back to square one.
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The upper mark is also present on the frame.



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Old 11-30-2016, 12:53 PM   #24
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Sweetness!!! I just found a thread on this site from a year ago, asking this same question! Here is a cut-n-paste of an answer given:

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I couldn't make the link work, but I clipped this out of an old SigTalk thread. Poster was "OTB" in 2011. You might be able to search.

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"It's proof signs and ownership markings.

P6 is the German designation for the P225. P6 stands for P225, like M9 for Beretta 92 in the USA.

NW is the ownership marking of the state police of Nordrhein Westfalen, Germany.

1/80 is the production date of proof date of the pistol.*

224 the last three digits of the serial number

The square eagle over BMI 8 is the acceptance stamp form a federal inspector

Eagle over BMI is the proof mark form a federal proof house. The pistol passed successuflly an overpressure test of the chamber.

BMI = Federal office of internal affairs.

Germany has two type of proof marks. What's normally found are commercial proof marks with proof dates (date code) from a state owned proof house. Small arms issued to a federal service in Germany are inspected and proof fired in a federal proof house. Identical acceptance markings and proof sings can be found on Walther P1 pistols issued to the Bundeswehr.

Same procedure, same specs, but different markings. Commercial proof marks can be found on service small arms, but federal proof marks never on small arms made for the commercial market.*

Your pistol is a P225 made to LEO specs, in January 1980. It was inspected and proof fired in the federal proof house of Meppen or St.Wendel in Germany and issued as P6 to the state police of Nordrhein Westfalen."
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bblr, I think these slides are good to go.

Great info in here:

P6 Proof Mark
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bblr, I think these slides are good to go.

Great info in here:

P6 Proof Mark


Bingo! Good to go. Proofs were the key. Congrats!


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Here's my proof marks from a functioning P6. They appear to be the same as the OP's.



I'm full convinced these trainers are real P6's capable of firing.
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I agree, feel more at ease now. Time to move forward......

On mine, it would seem that they drilled a hole in the top of the slide to plug weld the breech block in place. They didn't do a very good job to fully plug it, which resulted in it having a couple eyebrow marks. Also after hitting it with some fine emory cloth I found some poor grinding marks too.

A quick hit with the TIG, and some careful filing and sanding took care of it.



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Nice job
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Had to put the new grips on just to see what it would look like. Quickly brushed the slide with an SOS pad too.



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