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Old 12-08-2016, 07:55 AM   #16
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Interesting thread. A group of us are heading to The Site (former Blackwater North) next spring for a 2 day course. Pistol/carbine basics.

Looking forward to it. I hear everyone that says tactics change, but then again IMO getting professional training/refreshers on the mechanics is always valuable.
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Old 12-08-2016, 09:27 AM   #17
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This is one we do down here as well.

Carbine immersion class
https://youtu.be/Kwjasali6Lk


From 5:30-5:45 kinda makes me nervous where the one shooter on right is in front of guy who retreats backward and gives covering fire. But it's well run by folks who know better than me.

The use of the ROV creates an invidual unique experience every time you do it as the ROV is free to go anywhere it wants and the operator is never exactly the same twice.
The induced malfunctions with the sticks also adds a bit more realism to it and helps you learn to deal with it under 'stress', not real but it gets kinda intense.
Guy's arm with over the top Costa grip was tired by end of the first day.

Although I'm no Jedi.
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Old 12-08-2016, 12:52 PM   #18
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I think that generally this forum tends to be more firearm-focused rather than tactics/training focused. As a function of its purpose, it attracts gun enthusiasts more so than training junkies.

To answer your question though, I try to get about 2-4 hours a month of comprehensive professional dynamic pistol instruction: draw, reloads, malfs, cover/concealment, movement, and low-light, including doing all of the above with strong hand only and weak hand only. I train dynamic shotgun every once in a while too.

I train here:
http://www.colonialshooting.com/vab/...tion-overview/

I've also started shooting IDPA recently too, which seems to be a way to help me gauge which areas of my skillset need the most improvement. I ignore the competition aspect of it as far as trying to "win" anything is concerned (not that there's any danger of that happening anyway). I shoot in normal street clothes with my regular EDC setup.

I also train Muay Thai 5-10 hours per week.

I've contemplated knife training, but haven't gone there. I guess I can't conceive of a lethal-force scenario where I think I'd choose a blade over a gun.
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YouTube came out.
Yeager got famous.
And folks tried to reinvent the wheel.

Old school still works. And Jedi is right that over the top Costa grip is a fad and uncomfortable as heck for anything longer than a stage at a 3 gun match.
I completely understand this lack of respect or affection towards Yeager----first video I ever saw of him (Dana McClendon's Hot/Crazy Matrix) he in general didn't appeal to me. By now having heard so much negative about him and watching other YouTube videos of him he's not someone I'd take serious at all.
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I completely understand this lack of respect or affection towards Yeager----first video I ever saw of him (Dana McClendon's Hot/Crazy Matrix he in general didn't appeal to me. By now having heard so much negative about him and watching other YouTube videos of him he's not someone I'd take serious at all.
Not to mention he hid in a ditch while his buddies were getting shot I believe?
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I think that generally this forum tends to be more firearm-focused rather than tactics/training focused. As a function of its purpose, it attracts gun enthusiasts more so than training junkies.

To answer your question though, I try to get about 2-4 hours a month of comprehensive professional dynamic pistol instruction: draw, reloads, malfs, cover/concealment, movement, and low-light, including doing all of the above with strong hand only and weak hand only. I train dynamic shotgun every once in a while too.

I train here:
Colonial Shooting Academy: CSA ? Virginia Beach, Virginia ? Course Descriptions

I've also started shooting IDPA recently too, which seems to be a way to help me gauge which areas of my skillset need the most improvement. I ignore the competition aspect of it as far as trying to "win" anything is concerned (not that there's any danger of that happening anyway). I shoot in normal street clothes with my regular EDC setup.

I also train Muay Thai 5-10 hours per week.

I've contemplated knife training, but haven't gone there. I guess I can't conceive of a lethal-force scenario where I think I'd choose a blade over a gun.

Sounds great. Nice link.
At 46yrs old and been run over a couple times I wish I could take some more H2H classes. But I just can't. Your Muay Thai training probably suffices for up close bad breath distances. My Bowie does the same. If they are that close to me I've already let my guard down and allowed them to get too close. That blade in my hand can and will chop yours off, easily pierce any vital organ on your body if done correctly or simply scare the living **** outta them when it comes out of nowhere in a second or so.
Like I said if I can smell his breath I'm reaching left for the blade not the gun.
You can grab the muzzle of my gun and possibly push it out of battery. You're equally welcome to grab 9.5 inches of 1095 steel and try to take it from me.
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Sounds great. Nice link.
At 46yrs old and been run over a couple times I wish I could take some more H2H classes. But I just can't. Your Muay Thai training probably suffices for up close bad breath distances. My Bowie does the same. If they are that close to me I've already let my guard down and allowed them to get too close. That blade in my hand can and will chop yours off, easily pierce any vital organ on your body if done correctly or simply scare the living **** outta them when it comes out of nowhere in a second or so.
Like I said if I can smell his breath I'm reaching left for the blade not the gun.
You can grab the muzzle of my gun and possibly push it out of battery. You're equally welcome to grab 9.5 inches of 1095 steel and try to take it from me.
Muay Thai gives me a non-lethal option. Stun or disable the guy and run. The Muay Thai clinch is also very devastating for stand-up grappling in the event I get grabbed by the arms or collar.

I respect the knife tremendously and if I could help it I would avoid fighting someone who had one. Even an untrained person can mess you up very badly with a knife.

But if you can reach into your belt for a knife, you can just as easily reach for a gun. And there are shoot-from-retention and distance-creating techniques you can use to keep your gun from getting grabbed or pushed out of battery.

No downside to carrying a knife, but for me it's going to be a gun if I have to employ lethal force.
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Muay Thai gives me a non-lethal option. Stun or disable the guy and run. The Muay Thai clinch is also very devastating for stand-up grappling in the event I get grabbed by the arms or collar.

I respect the knife tremendously and if I could help it I would avoid fighting someone who had one. Even an untrained person can mess you up very badly with a knife.

But if you can reach into your belt for a knife, you can just as easily reach for a gun. And there are shoot-from-retention and distance-creating techniques you can use to keep your gun from getting grabbed or pushed out of battery.

No downside to carrying a knife, but for me it's going to be a gun if I have to employ lethal force.
If he's basically close enough for you to smell his breath you lost the time to draw your gun. That close and it will become a struggle over it. One can grab slide or muzzle and easily disarm you with a simple twist DONE properly.
That is why for me the knife is the close up choice. You're not wrestling it out of my hand nor gonna grab the blade of it as a simple downstroke will result in some fingers being left on the ground as he runs away.
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