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Old 01-05-2017, 03:14 PM   #1
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I don't know how many law enforcement/former L.E. or other firearm enthusiasts here have ever had the pleasure to wear body armor. I'm not talking about the old Vietnam era vets and the nylon plated "Flak Vest" and "Diapers".
The department I was a member of, had a hodge podge of "unknown" level vests, donated by the Sheriffs department. Our Chief managed to get the Town Board to buy us "new ones" fitted to us. IIRC they were Second Chance, and they had the "Hard Trauma" plate.
We had a female Corporal, who questioned the "Hard Plate", saying she heard, that in the case of female anatomy, the hard plate could cause a richochet, into the wearers chin. I tried to explain to her the realities of the need for a hard plate, over additional layers of Kevlar, but it didn't sink in.
I talked the chief into letting me put on a demonstration at the range. We had a couple of foam 3D targets, that I fitted with a couple of our older vests. Into one, I inserted a "Hard Plate", in the other a "Soft Insert". I took my 629 Smith & Wesson, with 240 grain Hollow Points, and fired 1 round into each.

Now the projectiles didn't penetrate either vest, but there was a definite flattening of the foam behind the "Hard Plate"... but the Soft Insert?.... there was a fist sized impression about 4 inches deep IIRC.

Needless to say the Corporal was very pleased thereafter with her new vest, and 5 years later demanded that the new vests we were to receive, also have the hard trauma plates.

I have also heard over the years, of other officers having their lives saved by hard plates, from injuries involving auto accidents, where the steering wheel tried to pass through them.

Does anyone else, have any interesting stories?
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Your demonstration left a lasting impression. A wise move on your part. Thank God, technology is helping our men and women in law enforcement and the military.

Even though it was heavy and bulky, the men in our unit wore the old flack jackets everyday. I have seen the results of direct fire penetrating the old flack jacket. It did protect several of us from scrapnel. We hit a lot of mines/booby traps, and normally our Rome Plows absorbed most of the punishment.

Not much would slow down a Caterpillar D-7. Flack jackets were of little help with the bees and snakes coming into the cab.
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They can be tough to ware when you are in a open boat all day and it's 90 degrees.
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They can be tough to ware when you are in a open boat all day and it's 90 degrees.
Or traipsing around the woods or open ranges. However, being hot is better than being a hot mess of dead.
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Or traipsing around the woods or open ranges. However, being hot is better than being a hot mess of dead.
Sounds like a new music band name: The Hot Mess Of Dead.
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