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Old 12-11-2012, 06:09 AM   #21
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Most modern hammer-fired pistols have a firing pin block. The trigger has to be pulled for the gun to fire.

Like I stated earlier, you're MUCH more likely to be injured in a car accident than by a ND. If you're that nervous about carrying a pistol with one in the chamber, maybe carrying a pistol isn't for you.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:31 AM   #23
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Somewhat off topic but I was reading where Siggybaby mentioned something about not using both hands. I remember reading about the design of the Siglite sights being flat on the back for just such occassions where one hand may be incapacitated and you have to rack the slide so the design was to facilitate that by using the back of the sights against your pocket or belt or a hard surface should you ever actually need to.
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If you're that nervous about carrying a pistol with one in the chamber, maybe carrying a pistol isn't for you.
What a closed-minded thing to say. Whatever happened to personal preference?

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Somewhat off topic but I was reading where Siggybaby mentioned something about not using both hands. I remember reading about the design of the Siglite sights being flat on the back for just such occassions where one hand may be incapacitated and you have to rack the slide so the design was to facilitate that by using the back of the sights against your pocket or belt or a hard surface should you ever actually need to.
That may be an unintended option -and a good one at that - but that's not the main reason for the design. The tritium vials are 5mm long...it's a simple matter of operating space.

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Old 12-11-2012, 09:19 AM   #25
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Everyone here has made a great point, but we must remember anything that waist time will get you killed. Can a firearm that is dropped go off sure but the likely hood of newer guns having this problem is highly improbable. Another thing we have to look at is the way we train, in a real life active shooter scenario fine motor skill go out the window and gross motor kick in. Now although raking the slide is a gross motor skill its a different ball game in real life. Hears the truth about the whole matter, keep a round in the pipe because anything that waist time get you killed, never train on something he brain will override in a combat situation and if your support hand is injured all of you who carry empty God bless.

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What a closed-minded thing to say. Whatever happened to personal preference?


In your haste to try to throttle me, you did not notice I said, "maybe". Logic dictates that it wasn't "closed-minded", but open-minded.
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In your haste to try to throttle me, you did not notice I said, "maybe". Logic dictates that it wasn't "closed-minded", but open-minded.
Technically: that "maybe" was your trapdoor exit in the case that someone called you out.
Practically: read it out loud and you'll see why I was hasty. It sounds patronizing, and I don't think that's fair to people who have legitimate concerns about the weapons they carry.


Put it this way...do you aim your pistol indiscriminately at people? If not, why not? Cooper's second rule of firearms safety is never aim at something you are not willing to destroy, right?

So why tell someone who carries a weapon on their hip - which may inadvertently aim at anything below the waist, including a child running up for a leg hug or a pet greeting them at the door - that keeping the gun unchambered is somehow not conducive to carrying it concealed? If you truly rely on your trigger bar safety to keep your weapon from firing into your car seat...then why practice muzzle control at all?

You either treat the weapon as a deadly object that can destroy things by accident...or you don't.

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Everyone here has made a great point, but we must remember anything that waist time will get you killed.
Sure, snatching the slide "wastes" time. On that note, so does standing up...so don't plan to sit down. Unzipping a jacket wastes time...so don't wear outer clothes, despite the weather. Unbuckling your seat belt in order to draw and bear your weapon wastes time...so don't buckle up.

Those are some extreme examples, but let's face it: so is the miniscule likelihood that most of us would find ourselves in a shooter situation. So many people worry about that one unlikely scenario that they forget the everyday.
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Technically: that "maybe" was your trapdoor exit in the case that someone called you out.
Practically: read it out loud and you'll see why I was hasty. It sounds patronizing, and I don't think that's fair to people who have legitimate concerns about the weapons they carry.
You are a P.O.W. tx.
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You are a P.O.W. tx.
That's usually the reaction when a simpleton fails to get their head around a new concept: skip the questions, start the process of martyrdom.
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tsxhurricane you said it!!! I couldnt say it any better.....
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I don't worry about a pistol as much when it's holstered. Using a shoulder holster or any kind of horizontal chest rig means the muzzle covers folks all the time, and they may not even know it. If it bothers you, though, then so be it. I wouldn't carry my Mark III chambered...
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I carry with 2 in the chamber
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Sirsigalot here, I have come to respect a lot of ur comments, I here you loud and clear.
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Sirsigalot here, I have come to respect a lot of ur comments, I here you loud and clear.
Thanks, and likewise.

At the end of the day, a lot of it is still just my opinion.
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That's usually the reaction when a simpleton fails to get their head around a new concept: skip the questions, start the process of martyrdom.
Your questions are skipped because they are idiotic. Just like the thread several months ago with your remarks about carry condition where you were roundly shot down (pun intended).

Call it being a "simpleton", but there are people in this world that should not carry, one in the chamber or not. And no, I am not referring to anyone in particular in this thread.
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Your questions are skipped because they are idiotic.
Another cop-out. Typical.

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Call it being a "simpleton", but there are people in this world that should not carry, one in the chamber or not. And no, I am not referring to anyone in particular in this thread.
Yes. They are known as "felons".

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Just like the thread several months ago with your remarks about carry condition where you were roundly shot down (pun intended).
I suppose it's futile to try and explain that a personal opinion cannot be "shot down". So instead I'll leave you with the following...


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I don't worry about a pistol as much when it's holstered. Using a shoulder holster or any kind of horizontal chest rig means the muzzle covers folks all the time, and they may not even know it. If it bothers you, though, then so be it. I wouldn't carry my Mark III chambered...
what's a mark 111?
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I think he is referring to Ruger Mark III in 22LR
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I think he is referring to Ruger Mark III in 22LR
Or a Browning Hi-Power Mark III.
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