SnakeShooter17

Ruger 22/45 Mark III (3) .22 LR caliber handgun. No firing pin block, no hammer block, just a sear block as a manual thumb safety. Mine wasn't even positively locking on safe until I fixed it. It was kinda mushy, even after stretching the spring out and trying to get it stiffer. Had to do a little file work on the Zytel frame.

I'll post a picture sometime. I've done a lot of work on it.

bearone2

thanks

HoosierGuy

I'm still waiting to get my carry license (applied a month ago) and I'm still thinking if I want to carry my new Sig Pro 2022 with a round in the chamber.

If I am totally responsible for the gun and the cartridges inside of the gun then I tend to think I should NOT carry a cartridge in the chamber. I realize if I use a holster that fully protects the trigger and with my 2022 being DA/SA and being able to lower the hammer down, it would be safe to carry with a round in the chamber. But if for some freak reason the cartridge was fired even while the trigger was safe inside the holster, I figure I would be held responsible in a court of law. So I'm thinking if I do carry I will start off by not having a round in the chamber.

I will say that the last time I shot I did make it a point to chamber a round, use the decocker, and put it in my Blackhawk holster, and walk around with it a little at the site I was shooting at. I did that to get me more comfortable with walking around with a cartridge in the chamber. After a few minutes I did become more comfortable but because of lack of ammo I've not been able to practice this much at all.

Are there any instances in the U.S. where a handgun that is safely holstered and has the trigger protected did go off for some reason?

I'll probably decide more on this issue once I can find and take a few safety/defense classes.

Kenny D

I think that if the trigger is protected by the holster and the hammer is decocked, with the safeties built into the 2022, you have a better chance of hitting the lottery or getting struck by lightning. Unless something malfunctions with the weapons firing pin block, something would have to snag the hammer and then release it for it to go off, but that is highly unlikely. I am not saying that it will never happen but I feel comfortable with mine and don't give it a second thought when I strap mine on every day.

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HoosierGuy

How do the Secret Service carry when they are protecting the President? Also what about F.B.I. and others like the those that protect U.S. nuclear power plants? One in the chamber or not? Anyone know?

USMCYodz

I assume 1 in the chamber, as they are taught to unholster and release safety at the safe time. Why pull your gun out on a criminal if you don't have one if the pipe?

We are taught to carry with one in the chamber, and just to keep the safety on.

gc37

I do know USAF personnel one in the chamber and safe off on the M9.

P225sig

All federal law enforcement and protective services always carry with a round in the chamber.

Bones

Yep! The training involved would preclude anyone from carrying with an empty chamber.
Much has changed since the study by the FBI of the Newhall Incident in California years ago with regards to training. I think there is a video on Youtube about it and it is well worth watching.

Badfish

One in the chamber and an extra mag in the change pocket of my jeans, brass to the grass. If you are running a lot with a weapon and are worried about dropping it, I suggest a holster with some form of thumb break retention.

Gray Ghost

Always carry with a round in the chamber.

dunkel

That looks great. Unless your hands are sweaty and slippery. Or your off hand is incapacitated for some reason. Or you're in a struggle and one hand isn't free.

And so on and so forth.

Honestly, this is like people who don't wear their seat belt...and expect to be able to put it on just before the accident happens.

architect323

Once I'm "comfortable" with actually doing CC, I'll probably start with condition 3. Might take me a while to get to condition 1.

dunkel

Well, that's really the most important thing...carry however you're comfortable. A condition 3 handgun at your side is better than a condition one back at home. But ultimately, I do think a condition 1 handgun on yiur hip is objectively better than a condition 3 handgun on your hip.

hwarang54

I carried chambered and decocked since day one. My wife asks me if I like it (very sarcastically). I tell her ever man enjoys carrying a deadly weapon pointed at their junk (i carry at 2) everyday all day (equally sarcastically). It bothered me but not anymore. Took me a day.

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SIG talker

Either way, if the man you intend to destroy drops you before you can even pull, does it really matter if one is chambered or not? If it's your time...it's your time.

SouthernYankee

Cocked and Locked the only way, 1911, P938 or P220. I think what people really need to wrestle with is, what kind of holster are you using that you don't maintain control of your firearm?

Gray Ghost

I think it's important to be consistent with whatever your decision is so there is never any doubt in your mind whether one is in the chamber or not.

I don't agree with the strategy of no round in the chamber unless you're going to a dangerous area. Make a decision and stick with it.

yogiboobooranger

Might as well carry a rock if you carry w/o one in the pipe. Most confrontations occur within 10 feet. Want to take the chance empty chambered, try this. Have a friend with a stick or rubber knife stand 10-15 feet away from you. Using a toy gun that allows you to rack the slide, holster it. On the word go, your partner runs at you with the stick or knife. You pull your toy gun and rack the slide in order to shoot. I guarantee you that you will not get the job done. Like I said, you might as well carry a rock!!