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Old 06-22-2016, 11:07 AM   #1
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Support hand index finger - IN FRONT of the trigger guard or UNDER the trigger guard

In my quest to improve my long range (longer) accuracy and tighten my groups, I tried using my index finger of my support hand IN FRONT of the trigger guard to help address recoil and steady the oscillations of the front sight on my P226.

I got the idea after watching a Jerry Miculek video where it made a lot of sense. He recommended "skateboard tape" on the front of the trigger guard. the SIG P226 (MK25) already has a grooved nothces there so it seemed like a no brainer.

Definitely improved my longer range shooting but I just can't establish a grip that doesn't break after I fire a round downrange. It is a 9mm and I have pretty big hands that are fairly strong. What gives? Anybody that uses this technique can you shoot me some pointers?
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Under for me.


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Old 06-22-2016, 12:34 PM   #3
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Under.

Putting it in front of the trigger guard was a fad that went away quite a long time ago for most shooting.

For long range stuff like Miculek does from time to time, it might work pretty well, but I can see where the grip is probably going to break with any significant recoil.
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Old 06-22-2016, 12:58 PM   #4
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Depends on the gun, the drill, which hand I'm using and what I want to accomplish.
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Old 06-22-2016, 01:15 PM   #5
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Watch the comeplete Vid.

Pay close attention to how he applies pressure to the back of the grip by closing
the rear of his hands.

I found this to be one of the best Vids. on how to control recoil and stay on target.




https://youtu.be/Xl1urjYlsZM
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Old 06-22-2016, 04:30 PM   #6
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Thank you all for your replies. I read all the posts and watched all the videos - the PDN with TH was one that I was missing for sure.

I have only seen Michael Seeklander a time or two but man - what a great in depth description. I will be looking for the rest of that series.

Its kinda weird that Sig still notches the front of the trigger guard - I think that coupled with the Miculek video was just too enticing not to try out at least.

Thanks again everyone. Great forum.
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Some full size guns it's difficult for me to get a good enough grip on them to where I can put it in front. But then on most mid size guns that the only place it can go.
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Under has always worked for me on both revolvers and semi autos.
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I don't grip my pistols that way, but there is no one way that is correct for everyone.

If that's how you get your best results, go with it.
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I get the best control (and shot patterns) when my support (left) hand has as much contact as possible with the left side of the grip, my left fingers are folded over my right fingers under the trigger guard, and my strong grip is with my support hand.
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Under for sure. The support hand grip is not to be shorted, since it allows you to make follow-up shots through proper recoil management.

Having a finger on the trigger guard just makes it was too hard to apply the proper crush grip
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:23 PM   #12
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Under for me.

Never liked the finger on the guard grip.
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Old 07-02-2016, 09:55 PM   #13
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I used to put it in front when I shot a Weaver stance. Now that I've switched to Isosceles, I have a thumbs-forward grip with it under. Also better for using the guns that I have with lights.
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Old 07-23-2016, 08:29 PM   #14
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Always under for me. I tend to pull shots low if I have a finger in front. A lot of guys were doing that during basic and once they took their finger off the front, their shots were better.
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Old 08-21-2016, 04:58 PM   #15
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Under for me, too. My shooting instructor spent an inordinate amount of time breaking other students' habit of placing the finger in front of the trigger guard. He felt strongly about that. So it's always been under for me. That said, do what works for you.
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