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Old 08-10-2013, 08:40 AM   #16
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Let us hope he never tries to eat firearms or everybody is in danger of losing what they have!
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:47 AM   #17
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just fire him the next go around.
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Old 08-10-2013, 09:25 AM   #18
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I thought he was the epitome of the Republican Party. White, overweight, and loud talking. Guess you get what you vote for. The wonderful things about laws is that they can be changed. The bad thing about laws is that they can be changed.
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I thought he was the epitome of the Republican Party. White, overweight, and loud talking. Guess you get what you vote for.
What an ignorant post.

Anyways, here in reality, Christie is a RINO. Enough said.
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What an ignorant post.

Anyways, here in reality, Christie is a RINO. Enough said.
Rino doesn't really go far enough for Christie and his ilk. Levin has coined a new name for ALL of them that are "working with" Obama for "the good" of the nation.......FRENCH (as in surrender monkies) Republicans. I like it, I'm officially adopting it!
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Rino doesn't really go far enough for Christie and his ilk. Levin has coined a new name for ALL of them that are "working with" Obama for "the good" of the nation.......FRENCH (as in surrender monkies) Republicans. I like it, I'm officially adopting it!
Also "French"
John McCain
Lindsey Graham
Mitch O'Connell
Kelly Ayote-Tea Party Turn Coat! AKA Benedict Arnold!
Corker and a whole bunch more!
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Also "French"
John McCain
Lindsey Graham
Mitch O'Connell
Kelly Ayote-Tea Party Turn Coat! AKA Benedict Arnold!
Corker and a whole bunch more!
John Boehner.....the BIGGEST surrender monkey of them all!!
Eric Cantor
Kevin McCarthy
3 BIGGIES......

Almost forgot the almost Vice President....Paul Ryan
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John Boehner.....the BIGGEST surrender monkey of them all!!
Eric Cantor
Kevin McCarthy
3 BIGGIES......

Almost forgot the almost Vice President....Paul Ryan
All Spineless Jellyfish Most should switch parties to how they act Democraps!

Give me Lee Cruz and Rand Paul they have a backbone. Rubio despite his being sucked in on the immigrations BS is still a patriot...
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All Spineless Jellyfish Most should switch parties to how they act Democraps!

Give me Lee Cruz and Rand Paul they have a backbone. Rubio despite his being sucked in on the immigrations BS is still a patriot...
I so wish that Rubio had not made that blunder. Some have written him off completely so I don't know what it would take for him to redeem himself and earn their trust back, he really had promise.

As far as spineless, oh heck yeah. The teaparty and those that believe as they do put them in power in 2010 and they don't seem to either believe that or remember it, not sure which but either way, they act like we're just a huge PITA instead of the ones that put them in there. Many are saying "we can't defund Obamacare".......duh, that's the biggest reason they were put in there.
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What an ignorant post.

Anyways, here in reality, Christie is a RINO. Enough said.
You missed the sarcasm in my comment and stereotype. In all seriousness though I thought he was what republicans loved in a politician. Trust me I am not ignorant just not a fan of the Republicans right now.
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You missed the sarcasm in my comment and stereotype. In all seriousness though I thought he was what republicans loved in a politician. Trust me I am not ignorant just not a fan of the Republicans right now.

Rocket91 The Old Guard Republican Party is or will be dead!
They have not backed the best candidate for a position on 30 years. They play the OK it's your turn game.
The Tea Party will be the the opposition to the left wing radical, progressives aka democraps. We (America) will be at the most divided, since the civil war. Populations will move to where their loyalty is IE reds states/ blue states.
Then the Money will be the difference in longterm survival as the progressives will not have the revenue to take from (The Givers) and give to the The takers (slaves) and will need to expand their territory. checkmate.
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I so wish that Rubio had not made that blunder. Some have written him off completely so I don't know what it would take for him to redeem himself and earn their trust back, he really had promise.

As far as spineless, oh heck yeah. The teaparty and those that believe as they do put them in power in 2010 and they don't seem to either believe that or remember it, not sure which but either way, they act like we're just a huge PITA instead of the ones that put them in there. Many are saying "we can't defund Obamacare".......duh, that's the biggest reason they were put in there.

Rubio stumbled but he'll get back up, he's too smart, charming and sincere to go down in flames. Let his burnt ass be a lesson to him you can't play ball with Schmuck Schumer!
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One of the things I don't like about the republicans is that they are right, they know they are right, but they don't fight. They know their economic policies have been historically proven to work and socialism has proven itself to fail time and time again so when the democrats push their socialist agenda the republicans say it is wrong, smile, and sit down. The democrats might be wrong about everything and serve the devil passionately but at least they fight for what they believe in however evil and wrong it may be (like murdering babies). Why can't the republicans fight the same way?

What will it take for the republicans to get up off their hindquarters and fight?
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This will doom Christie's chances of getting the GOP nomination won't it? His schtick won't play in the heartland, but then he's counting on the big electoral votes states, i guess. The theme i'm getting here is that Bob Dole would be seen as a pinko, and Ronald Reagan a hippy to the Tea Party. i'm an independent, i happen to believe politics is organized crime, but out of curiosity, who do you propose would best represent the "Real Republicans"? i already know who'll be the face of the Dems, but who's the GOP got who is ELECTABLE? How's Sam Brownback grab you?

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Ok, I'll get shouted at and called a troll, but I agree with items 1 & 2, and would want to know more about 3.

1. Require that certain mental-health records be sent to the national background check database.

2. Enhance penalties for giving a gun to an underage person, as well as for people convicted of unlawful possession of a firearm, which will be a crime of first-degree under certain circumstances.

3. Disqualify any person on the FBI's Terrorist Watch List from obtaining a firearms identification card or a permit to buy a gun. Christie issued a statement with that bill, noting that "some have expressed concerns with this bill based on the reliability and accuracy of background check information" provided by the FBI.

I would even pay a bit of tax on the ammo to help pay for the increase in jail time and other admin costs. Please tell me how this negatively affects me as a law abiding citizen?

Also, I like the idea of the info on the drivers licence. I have a CHL and always find it a pain in the ass that I need to spend another $10 every time I want to buy a gun. Again, sounds like it would actually make my life a little easier and harder for scum bags from getting a gun. I'll repeat the same questions here.

Also, before people go completely nuts, just remember that this forum is about encouraging education and dialogue.

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Yep..that's the ticket! More punitive laws on top of the thousands already on the books is the ticket to curtail the actions and intents of the lawless.

At some point, "we'll" wake up and realize that all these laws upon laws upon laws...NONE of which are designed to GIVE you freedom. All of them place one extra link in the chain of constraint..One day we'll wake up and realize that the only folks stripped of rights by law are those who were no threat to peace and harmony in the first place.

We know that those that govern want to whittle away at the citizens rights. Look at the way we are policed.. Once engaged with LE you have no rights, you can bitch about them if/when you are freed but WHILE..it's tough. You are obliged to obey and any manner of resistance is a threat and potentially puts you in very read personal danger.

WE KNOW for absolute certain that our information is being stored with the option to retroactively scour our personal information. As time goes on the information gets bigger and bigger. Keep an eye on anyone anywhere, you'll see they have dark times and low points, any biased professional that has more clout than you will ever have might deem that looking at patterns in your life that you are hot headed, unstable maybe even emotional outside of a narrow range of trusted sociability. It'll come...that assessment will be all thats needed to fail a background check as your social scoring profile performed by some system set up by some respected and renown team of Ph.D's somewhere sayst that by their scientific testing and assessment you are mentally unfit. POOF... Gun owners already are behaving like that medical assessment is a meter they are willing to concede to be included in background checks. If so why not have that one MUST submit to a psychological appraisal prior to acquisition of a firearm. That suggestion will come and sound so reasonable many will buy it. Enough will oblige that they will have at some point enough data to bring up concerns about the number of folks seemingly questionable mentally that this universal system will need to be introduced and sooner or later by law to own arms you must past a mental test to avail yourselves of your constitutional rights.

Laws upon laws upon laws, layered one on top of the other until in order to do anything a free man once did witout needing broader social approval and authorization to do, will become a lawful requirement to submit yourself to first.

You'll find that to protest the rediculousness of these laws, you'll now need to apply for a government issued permit and will be checked and vetted then assigned some random 2-acre plot of unused land miles away from anywhere that might be physically effective as a location to protest and pray that your cause is interesting enough for the local news crews to record...which they rarely will other than to display how "loony" you are. You'll soon find that anything done publicaly outside of some prescribed, sanctioned and authorized way allowed by law will be deemed 'unlawful','threatening', 'damn potentially terroristic', and 'illegal' as you had no permit or official authorization. Many will see the rightness in this..after all..no permit so you are a criminal breaking the law and the peace. Sooner or later, you'll get your heads beaten in and tear gassed and it will be because of your threatening unlawful, unsactioned, unauthorized assembly on government controlled public land which you had no permission to occupy and disturb traffic...

Be careful about the ever increasing mountain of layered upon layered of laws...which do nothing but constrain...they do not free, they only oblige you to comform or be punished and once in violation of the laws...any number of the thousands of them...you lose rights...FOREVER! Careful about the sense you see in every new law that is introduced, none of it brings security or freedom.

careful..

There are presently an ocean of laws on the books, few if any GIVE you freedom, they overwhelmingly introduce constraints and limits with punitive consequences that can stay with you for a lifetime for non compliance. As time goes on they become so burdensome that at some point, you'll fail to totally comply. If held to account for it you will have lawfully disqulified yourself from protection under the bill of rights. There are layers upon layers on top of that scrawny patch of parchment that are set up to have you disqualified from access to what it contains..

Gotta admit..It's my time spent in the 21'st century post 9/11/2001 that has suddenly had me realize the appeal of the wild uncharted 'lawless' territories of the past. Never in my life have I felt so stressed about what the law says that I cant do..and I'm saying this in a universal manner much broader than the firearm issue. It's even illegal to play in the park after 10pm around here...I'd be fined and possibly arrested for non-compliance.

Keep your head down, go to work, pay your taxes, pay your mortgage, pay your bills, frolic on the weekend, no more than two martinis and you are breaking laws and putting others lives in danger. You can have a threesome, just dont pay for a threesome. Jaywalking costs ya $200. Dont you dare wear a mask in any city (anyone tried that?), dont you dare put up your hood after dark in the city (anyone tried that?).

Geez...What's life in Mongolia like nowadays? Can we still 'steal and kidnap' our brides like in the old days? Ahh...those good old days...

Sorry for the tangent.. I'm not even a goddam conservative..
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