bearone2

well said, corrupt l e, politicians, folks you'd like to believe in, keep getting caught not serving & protecting.

Tip

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but aren't AWs banned in Connecticut?
It didn't work - did it?

We need mandatory firearm sentencing - use a gun to commit a crime automatically double the sentence.

I have no problem with a FOID process - register owners - not weapons. Get caught with a weapon and not be registered - mandatory sentence - no plea bargains.
Give LE tools to actually put away perps with guns.

Of course this would also include universal federal cc -- maybe 2 class system - BG checks & basic training for FOID and then FOID and advanced training for cc.

Something for everybody.....

bearone2

released felons/criminals have done time, are already prohibited from owning firearms, you really think you'll scare 'em with double time.

l e enforce the laws, the court's can release/incarcerate.

welcome from az

BILLG

This is just a start once they get their foot in the door what will be next?

arclight610

Get caught not turning in your "registered weapon" in to the government when confiscation eventual comes, mandatory sentence - no plea bargain.

Tip

Which is why it says register OWNERS and NOT weapons.

But, you are right - stand your ground, no compromise, refuse to discuss or entertain anything but exactly what YOU want.

They absolutely ARE going to do something! So do we work with them to try and make it as palatable as possible or do we bow up or necks, refuse everything and end up with what they cram down our throats?

What do you think will work better?

LongShot716

We already have all that crap in Kommiefornikstan and it doesn't work. All it does is make it harder and more expensive for law abiding citizens to own a firearm and nearly impossible to obtain a CCW.

What's needed is to enforce the laws already on the books.

Biden has already submitted his recommendations to the President. His recommendations include a 10 round cap on magazines, funding for mental health and stricter background checks. He omitted any reference to an AWB because they know full well that there is no support for it.

arclight610

Compromise is how we got to where we are today. That's why "full-auto" is a naughty word, and why the average joe has to buy these ridiculous bumpfire contraptions so they can sort of get the full auto experience. Compromise is why there are silly laws like you can't have a barrel under 16" or put a stock on a pistol. The erosion of freedom very seldom comes in one fell swoop.

Lastly, there is no legal way I forsee an AWB passing. I'm so confident, I sold a few AR15's, mags, and 5.56 ammo and bought some revolvers, shotguns, and 1911s. Although the panic buy is inconvenient, I'm glad it's happening. It means gun control is very unpopular. I'd be more worried if a potential AWB was happening and nothing was flying off the shelves.

murse2k7

I'm starting to think Sandy Hook was a set up. Check it.

SauerSig

I wouldn't say I think it was. BUT, I would not be surprised if years from now we find out it was.

Emiller3

I don't think any law would have prevented what Lanza did, other things must be considered.

Paxmo

Ny all firearms sales get insta check. 10 round limit. Leo's excerpt.

Sigarms228

The USA can't/won't control our borders so how the hell would they stop illegal guns from flowing into the USA?? They sure are doing a bang up job controlling drugs coming in also.

So even if there was an outright ban on firearms in the USA it would NOT stop criminals from getting firearms.

Universal background checks are nothing more than a liberal wet dream to start building their databases with the longer term goal to be registration and confiscation of firearms from "law abiding" citizens.

Once it is law that all firearms sales and transfers must be approved by "them" then they got you by the balls. When their databases link to obamacare and other databases they will find all kinds of reasons to deny a sale/transfer OR confiscation of an already owned of a firearm.

NO THANKS.

There are pleny of other countries or even liberal bastion cities/counties in the USA, such as Chicago and Detroit, where one could move to if they feel safer with their more restrictive gun laws.



"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

SouthernYankee

You cannot legislate safety and unfortunately you definitely cannot trust the government to do it either. The police do not prevent a crime, they solve them (sometimes), though it is a nice thought but since they can't be everywhere (except perhaps in O's Police state plan), since they probably won't be where the crime is being committed. This is not the failing of your local PD, it is a reality of life and criminal activity. If you think criminals will be contrite and follow registration laws, I have a great land deal for you. Also, any private sale you will engage in I'm pretty sure will not involve a criminal (most likely a friend or family). Besides, 100% background check would be the first necessary step to a Nat'l Registry, for in 100% Back Ground Checks ALL gun owners would be listed/noted with the next step being ser. #'s (except criminals). This argument could keep going, but the important part is that law abiding people would sacrifice their safety to a gov't that could not fulfill the promise to keep you safe from violent crime,by giving up your gun. When has that ever worked? Except now the gov't has an unarmed civilian population, and what has that eventually lead to every time?

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ~ Benjamin Franklin

28 people to a madman is wretched and horrible death and a credit to our society that it is pained by it. A nations population to a tyrannical gov't. is a death of the very worst kind though, for it strips first the spirit, then soul and finally the body. Our founders trusted the individual and not the Gov't. How things have changed, now we trust the Gov't and not the individual. God save us.

HI State

Coming from a state that does FBI background and primary doctors evaluation already I don't think that it's a really bad idea especially if you don't have anything to hide. At this point something needs to be done and both sides need to compromise. I rather have a background check and mental evaluation then a AWB put in effect

bearone2

nor aurora or tucson, they'd have come up approved.

HI State

Ok then what would you guys propose?

HI State

Well yes his mother was the owner of the firearms and it was her misjudgment and irresponsible actions of not having the firearms locked in a safe that lead to this tragic event. all I'm saying is most of the time it's some one with a mental problem that's causes these tragic events so something along the lines of a mental evaluation or backround check I think is in order.

You say I'm sounding defeatist. If so I would just say that there's nothing we can do against the AWB.but I'm trying to think of another solution that will be a compromising "win win" situation

bearone2

if you're not aware, nics is an fbi check & required to purchase a firearm.

in some states the nics check isn't required if purchaser has ccw, cwp, chl.......

HI State

No I'm not aware and don't know what a nics is and it's contents please explain and why would there be no need if u have a ccw.im not to keen on the ccw laws because it is extremely hard almost impossible to attain where I live. I wish it were different.i find it wrong to be able to purchase a firearm for protection but not be able to have it with you to protect yourself.