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Old 01-09-2013, 11:49 AM   #1
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The news and those against gun control.

I've been watching the news a lot lately, and seeing the gun bashing we as legal firearm owners taking. The thing that is getting me is the people that are going on the news to support us aren't helping us. CNN keeps repeating the exchange with Piers Morgan, and Alex Jones. When Jones blew up on Morgan, all I could think was how bad he made gun owner look, and that the bully mentality isn't going to help. The 1776 comment was way out of line in my book, and didn't help anything. When Wayne LaPierre had his news conference I felt at times he was rambling, and about to loose it emotionally. Now the people who kept standing up, holding up signs, and trying to make statements didn't help there cause either.
I think people on both sides need to take a step back, think about what they are saying and doing, and be respectful to the other side.
When Joshua Boston was on CNN I liked his interview. He did a great job staying calm, answering the questions, and putting forward what he needed to say. He didn't shout, or become emotional, he just said what he needed to say. You don't see clips of Boston coming up because he kept his cool, but you see clips of Jones blowing up, and LaPierre becoming emtional.
Right now as legal gun owners we all are being watched and judged, by the general public and press. What happened at Aurora Colorado, Sandy Hook Elementry, the Oregan mall, and in upstate New York, were all very tragic. These were done by people who had mental or social issues, but we are all being looked at because of these few. I think we all need to watch what we say and do as far as firearms, and know that anything we say can be used against us if we say it wrong. Being a bully or threatening isn't the way to go, be respectful of others opinions. Anti-gunners are just stating their opinions, just like you are stating yours to be a legal firearms owners.
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:59 AM   #2
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Anyone who does some research on Piers Morgan and Alex Jones will find that both are blithering idiots.

Don't be so naive to think that just because Piers is calm and rational on TV that he is that way all the time. His rants on Twitter are near psychotic. And then there's this:



Granted, the source is Jones' YouTube channel, but the video footage doesn't lie.
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I've seen Morgan rant and blow up too, but you don't see those repeated on CNN. When he does it they call it being "passionate". When someone who supports firearms owners does they call them "stupid" or "insensitive".

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True.
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very true
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Media liberalization. It's how they get their ratings. I bet that if the popular consensus was such as "We need NO gun-free zones" and "everyone who can legal carry should," the argument would be the other way around. Unfortunately, we do not have that kind of educated support.
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A Little Insight

I believe Mark Twain said it best, "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid, than to open it and remove all doubt." Followed with, "For every 1000 people (politicians/pundits?) hacking at the branches of evil, there's only one hacking at the root." Wise words from a unusually savvy man.
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Saw a piece on CNN tonight involving one of their young female reporters at a range getting "acquainted" with guns. She asks the retired LEO, now gun salesman, "who needs one of these?" referring the the AR-15 she has been shooting. He replies that everyone should have one for home defense.

Now I have two pistols and a third on the way. I plan to pick up a Mossberg 500 to fill out my HD requirements. But I absolutely don't feel I need an AR-15 to defend my little 1000 sq. ft. home. What a ridiculous statement.
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Saw a piece on CNN tonight involving one of their young female reporters at a range getting "acquainted" with guns. She asks the retired LEO, now gun salesman, "who needs one of these?" referring the the AR-15 she has been shooting. He replies that everyone should have one for home defense.

Now I have two pistols and a third on the way. I plan to pick up a Mossberg 500 to fill out my HD requirements. But I absolutely don't feel I need an AR-15 to defend my little 1000 sq. ft. home. What a ridiculous statement.
Rediculous statement? Really?

Home doesn't just mean your domicile. Home refers to your town, your country, your family. And what makes you think that when the SHTF you'll even be at your 1000 sq ft home. What if you have to bug out? You'll be wishing you did have that AR 15 or AR 10 then...mark my words .

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Unfortunately the debate is always turned and twisted away from the real intent of the AR 15 or any other "assault weapon".

Lets not make it about hunting, or about home defense. Can I do both of those with it? Yes.

Is it overkill for both of those scenarios? Probably, Yes.

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The constitutions of most of our States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, ... or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press.

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To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, countries or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws.

Patrick Henry

Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.


None of these men is talking about hunting, or home defense against burglars. They knew what the true meaning of the second amendment was, and how precious and neccessary it is. The media is changing the dialogue to undermine the true importance of this right. The fools are trying to undo the only thing that guarantees them their bully pulpit (freedom of speech).
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I don't even go there with my pacifist wife. I get the "why do you need this" question a lot. I collect firearms primarily for sport and pleasure. Unfortunately some people do some destructive things with these objects.

No different than vehicles. Why do you need a Hummer? Why do you need any car with 250+ horsepower? Even some scooters can achieve the legal speed limits in this country. We don't "need" anything more than that, do we?

Vehicles kill more Americans than the rest of our toys combined. Some are used by lunatics to murder. Murderers will use whatever tool they can acquire. We can't outlaw every tool, right?

That usually ends my wife's inquiry. Her father collects old Buicks. He doesn't need eight cars. Add to that they they are the "killer" kind with no or inadequate seat belts or air bags that he likes to drive our kids around in. Yikes! End of discussion.

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Saw a piece on CNN tonight involving one of their young female reporters at a range getting "acquainted" with guns. She asks the retired LEO, now gun salesman, "who needs one of these?" referring the the AR-15 she has been shooting. He replies that everyone should have one for home defense.

Now I have two pistols and a third on the way. I plan to pick up a Mossberg 500 to fill out my HD requirements. But I absolutely don't feel I need an AR-15 to defend my little 1000 sq. ft. home. What a ridiculous statement.
"Everyone should have one" and "everyone needs one" are two entirely different statements. On top of which: both are just one man's opinion.
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Saw a piece on CNN tonight involving one of their young female reporters at a range getting "acquainted" with guns. She asks the retired LEO, now gun salesman, "who needs one of these?" referring the the AR-15 she has been shooting. He replies that everyone should have one for home defense.

Now I have two pistols and a third on the way. I plan to pick up a Mossberg 500 to fill out my HD requirements. But I absolutely don't feel I need an AR-15 to defend my little 1000 sq. ft. home. What a ridiculous statement.
I can relate to your thinking ,BUT, with the current tribe in Washington,I have started to look farther down the road.I picked up an AR Platform of sorts,sighted it in, and put it to bed in the safe. There it with ammo will stay till NEEDED. AKA insurance policy. All the pistols are sport, except when on the belt doing SD duty.
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I carried my personal AR when I was an active duty LEO, now that I'm retired does that mean I should get rid of it?. It'll never happen.
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