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Old 12-03-2016, 04:05 AM   #31
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I know SIG was trying to change things up and do something really different with the Legion. I don't understand why the finish on the Legion series doesn't wear like Nitron. They are both PVD processes and all my Nitron SIGs have worn like iron. My 22 year old 229-40 has about 30,000 rounds thru it and had no finish issues, at all. Just wondering.
My P220 Super Match is closing in on 30k and the finish, even on the frame rails, has held up extraordinarily well.

Apparantly, the PVD SIG uses on the Legions is somewhat less cosmetically durable than the Nitron PVD, but the Legions are great looking guns nonetheless and a little finish wear doesn't diminish that IMO.
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Old 12-03-2016, 04:25 AM   #32
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Leave it to a woman to bring up shoes
I may live in 5.11 ATAC 8" Coyote boots almost 24/7, 365 but yes, I'm still a female under all my equipment and duty gear.

As for our Legions, we have 4 and so far non have shown signs of the issues that some of the other Legion owners have mentioned.

But I'm of the mindset that my weapons are a tool. I do have a few safe queens but they are either unique or cost well above the price of a Legion (and some of them aren't FT queens and get fired once in a blue moon when the mood strikes).
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I at least like to shoot it before the finish starts to show flaws like the OP and mine did. If I want scuffed shoes I would get them a Goodwill. Mine was bought on line and picked up at a LGS. Too late to void the sale then. So buyer beware. On line is the only way to buy certain guns in this day and age, as they are not in stock at your LGS.
Actually, before you sign your name on the 4473 for the transfer you can refuse the sale and have the FFL send it back. I always check for flaws and function before I sign.
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Is the same coating used on the frame vs slide? I know with Nitron guns, the slide is Nitron, while the frame is anodized.
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I at least like to shoot it before the finish starts to show flaws like the OP and mine did. If I want scuffed shoes I would get them a Goodwill. Mine was bought on line and picked up at a LGS. Too late to void the sale then. So buyer beware. On line is the only way to buy certain guns in this day and age, as they are not in stock at your LGS.


You could have simply rejected the transfer and had your dealer return it. You always have that option upon seeing it at your FFL. Look it over well before you fill out your transfer paperwork. It truly amazes me how many people don't now this and come online whining about cosmetic issues on new guns bought online. If your not happy with the finish on the gun upon inspection simply reject the transfer. It will go back to whoever you bought it from and you and that dealer can workout a solution.


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I know SIG was trying to change things up and do something really different with the Legion. I don't understand why the finish on the Legion series doesn't wear like Nitron. They are both PVD processes and all my Nitron SIGs have worn like iron. My 22 year old 229-40 has about 30,000 rounds thru it and had no finish issues, at all. Just wondering.


M&P customers went through this exact same issue back when the VTAC model was first introduced. The new variant used a FDE colored PVD treatment as opposed to the standard models melonite treatment. Customers complained that the new finish shows holster wear and just didn't hold up well.

With this going down several years ago I don't see why everyone is "shocked" over another company having the exact same issue when moving to a colored PVD treatment.




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I already have nearly 1500 rounds through my 229L. Nothing unusual with the finish noted.
No unusual wear or imperfections.

I have already added it to my CCW rotation.

It's not my 1st Sig and it will be shot often and not a safe queen. Everything we own is shot often even our pretty light framed 1911's. No safe queens here. We average shooting 4 times a week.

We only use leather, sticky or Remora holsters with our metal, light alloy framed pistol's..... 1911's,
Sig's plus others. No Kydex which seems very popular in the Sig community.

If you wear jewelry(Rings) especially a ring with diamonds be aware diamonds are harder than your metal/alloy frames and can wear the finish quickly even cutting into the metal. Just a simple ring can mar the finish. We saw this on a Wilson Ultra Light Carry Compact.

When I bought my Legion on sale I noticed the 1st one they put in my hand had a good sized scratch mark on it. Not an imperfection but a man made scratch mark so we asked for another one and found it to be perfect. It still looks that way today. Will it stay that way shooting it as often as I shoot?

I have put little marks on pistol slides at the range when the casing ejects and hits a divider, bounces back and hits the slide. Happened on a 1911 Sig Spartan.

I am happy with mine and will keep carrying and shooting it. It's a tool but sure I want to keep it looking good.

M11A1, 225A1, 227 SAS, P938, 1911 Spartan 4 1/4 and 229 Legion.
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My German P226 Nitron shoes similar wear. It's not possible to avoid wear in the slide rails. Any finish will wear off the high spots and stainless will polish.
Is this thread about guns or shoes?
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I'll admit the Legion is a great looking, stylish (stylized) firearm and packaged like a show piece. And I'd love to own one.

But I know that I never will. And that's because any time I buy a gun its with the idea in mind that 1) I intend to shoot the thing; and 2) I want the option of carrying it as a service weapon or concealed. That said, I never got the vibe (if you can) from the gun that it was really meant for work. You know how some girls are really great to look at and are just beautiful but that's it because they don't look like maybe they can really perform when its needed. Same concept.
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I You know how some girls are really great to look at and are just beautiful but that's it because they don't look like maybe they can really perform when its needed. Same concept.
Pat, Expect to be hosting a protest in your front yard this weekend, organized by the GLBUPWA (great looking but underperforming women's association).

The Legion is sold on sizzle, the warrior mystique, appearance, AND performance. Most buyers here would brush aside that warrior part, leaving appearance and function.

Instead of the "unsafe and risky to one's health" good looking girl analogy, how 'bout a shiny new Lamborghini Aventador?



Around $400K. You cut your kids out of your will, reduce the wife's allowance, hock the house and go buy one. Drive it around for a week, your friends are mightily impressed (I would be too). Then the paint starts peeling. You call the dealer. They assuage all your concerns explaining this paint peel is considered normal, it's a car, drive it, enjoy it!
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Looks like a junk coating to me.

Sounds like i will just get my gun coated with np3 or np4

If thats normal for pvd sig should get a better coatinh

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That finish wear is the least of my Legion problems. It has the crappist trigger of ALL my SIGS.
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Grease the rails both on the frame and slide. I use Mil-Comm, expensive but you need only a tiny bit, and then wipe off the excess, all the excess. It just takes an invisible layer. I've shot 2000 rounds through my Legion p226, with absolutely no signs of wear on the barrel hood, the barrel at its near-muzzle lock-up point, and just minimal frame rail wear.

What does bug me is that the Surefire XC1 rubs the finish off the front edges of the rail.


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I just went up and took a look at my 226L. I only have a few hundred rounds thru it so far.

There is a little bit of wear on the rail. But that wasn't what jumped at me in the PO's pictures. His rail looked bone dry !?!!!

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I've seen some that look like his brand new in the box from the factory.
You can't blame them all on improper care.
That finish and/or its application has a problem.
They've been posted on this site.

All stick to ALL other SIGs but those.
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