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Old 01-07-2017, 01:21 PM   #1
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Why do I want a Legion?

Preface...I don't have in my possession my first Sig yet, P320. I'll have it Monday. I've never taken MUCH time looking at Sig at gun shows. I'm sure to in the future. LOL. But, treat me like a curious but naive newbie.... why do I want a Legion? Why a Legion over a standard 229? I promise, no hidden meaning in my question, I really just want to hear from owners rather than read marketing materials.
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:34 PM   #2
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Because you don't have one?

I like tail, so that limits me to the elite series, I like a little less than a little more. I liked the sights and trigger better too.
The cost of selling my soul was the same so I became one of Many.
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Old 01-07-2017, 02:01 PM   #3
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I thought the same thing then the opportunity to shoot one ..

Now after buying the Legion P229 in 40 S&W last summer .. I'm considering another one ..
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There is alot of info about the feature set of the Legion vs. other Sig's that you can read about here and elsewhere.

Understand that the at the base level they are the same thing and that is a P229. Nothing about the way a Legion is built is different than any other Sig. It doesn't receive extra special fitting or accuracy work, it doesn't receive any extra QC or fit and finish.

What it does have is a few different small parts and a few ergonomic features that do make a meaningful difference in how it handles and shoots for many people.

The features that I find most appealing about the Legion are as follows: checkering on the front strap, undercut trigger guard, beavertail frame, G10 grips, X-ray sights and everything about the trigger.

The differences between a Legion and a plain jane P229 are imo very meaningful for my preferences. Compare a Legion to say a Stainless Elite and the differences basically whittle down to very little for what I prefer.
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I agree with the previous post wholeheartedly. I have never owned a sig. I primarily shoot 1911s. But a couple of weeks ago at the range a gentleman asked me if he could shoot my Wilson, I agreed . I shot his Legion. I really enjoyed shooting that gun, I have never felt as smooth a double action trigger as that one. Site acquisition was as good or better than my Wilson. From what I understand if you do the upgrades to a standard 226 or 229 the price will be a little more . So for that I would say it's a very good deal,if indeed those are upgrades you desire. Today I shot it along side of a couple of my wilson's and enjoyed it as much. Maybe I would feel the same about a standard 226 i haven't shot one yet. But for me the Legion was a move I wanted to take. From an analogy standpoint, you could say that the Wilson is Bruce Lee, Unassuming but will it surprise you. The Legion is like a 6 foot 3 240 pound prize fighter, you assume that he's a brawler yet he's very fast and smooth like a middle weight. Hell my two cents anyway
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I have many many Sigs. If I could only have two the first would be my 320SC as it is my EDC. The second would be my Legion 226 it is exceptional.
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Don't mean to take anything away from the 320, but to approach the fuller SIG experience you just gotta' have an all metal P-series model. Any one of them will do quite nicely, especially a 229. The 229 versions that are available can fill most any requirement, even ones requiring a Legion.

But I'd highly recommend looking them all over. Wouldn't want to miss that special one.
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Because the real reason you asked the question was to provide you reinforcement for buying it at all... Lol ; ) of course you WANT it... Once you have it, you'll realize how you NEEDED it.

Lol... Just teasing! Dollar for dollar the upgrades make it a worthy upgrade over the standard models. Don't worry about all the negatives you may have read, most people come to the Internet to complain. There are thousands more who'd tell you what a great investment they made buying one! And go .357, don't skimp out
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Similar situation, long time 1911 fan from Colt, STI and Les Baer and the Glocks. Bought my first Sig in November, a 229 Legion. Every time I shoot it, I cant help but think this is a great pistol. Something about an all steel pistol as compared to the Glocks just feels better to me. I will always be a 1911 guy with Sig close behind, so much so that my 227 SAS should arrive on Monday. Please help me I can't stop!
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There is alot of info about the feature set of the Legion vs. other Sig's that you can read about here and elsewhere.

What it does have is a few different small parts and a few ergonomic features that do make a meaningful difference in how it handles and shoots for many people.

The features that I find most appealing about the Legion are as follows: checkering on the front strap, undercut trigger guard, beavertail frame, G10 grips, X-ray sights and everything about the trigger.

The differences between a Legion and a plain jane P229 are imo very meaningful for my preferences. Compare a Legion to say a Stainless Elite and the differences basically whittle down to very little for what I prefer.
I've shot and tested a lot of 9 mm pistols, and had my heart set on the HK p30, until someone asked if I'd like to try his 226 Legion. That 226 Sig grip was just perfect for me.

Including that ergonomic grip, I'll second all the above features of the Legion, including that Gray Guns trigger, (which is out of the box the best DA/SA triggers I've tried), and the intermediate beavertail which promotes a high tight grip. If you add up the money you'd spend to convert a std 226 to Legion-level, you'd come out about $300 poorer than if you had just bought the Legion.

I liked the Legion well enough that I bought the 226 Mk 25 Desert. I put G10 grips on it to match to non-slip G10 ones of the Legion, and aside from missing the Gray short reset, I don't mind the long pre-travel and reset of the standard Sig trigger.

One thing to notice there is that, unlike the flat surface of the standard Sig Mark 25 trigger, the Legion Gray trigger has a convex curve across the face. That makes it hard to feel the complete pad of your finger when pressing it back. It's the only thing about the Gray trigger that bugs me, and I'm sending it in to have the trigger face ground flat as with the standard 226 trigger.

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I decided I preferred going the route of a standard P229R and adding the "Legion features" that I liked. I really don't care for the attenuated beavertail on the Legions. Yes, it is much less than the Elites, but it is still unnecessary IMO, adding weight, length snaggability, and making the hammer a bit harder to ride with the thumb while reholstering.

I also preferred the black Nitron finish to the PVD finish of the Legion. Most of the frame and slide modifications I can take or leave. In addition to the frame modifications mentioned by AJD21, the Legion slide has cocking serrations at the front. These don't appeal to me because I never do press checks with my hand that close to the muzzle. Likewise the checkering on the underside of the trigger guard is of no use to me. The front strap checkering and the slight frame relief at the back underside of the trigger guard have somewhat more appeal, but when I shot a Legion P229R (on three separate occasions) I found that they really did not have any perceptible functional benefit to me. No doubt others feel differently. Lastly, I really dislike the miniaturized control levers on the Legions, especially the tiny slide catch lever. I have no trouble whatsoever with the standard size controls, and the tiny levers are just harder to use.

I do like the SIG X-Ray sights, the G10 grips, the SRT, and the P-SAIT Grayguns trigger and added all to my P229R. I have read repeatedly that modifying a standard P229R to make it more like a Legion will cost much more than just buying a Legion. That might be true if you really wanted the frame work done and the tiny control levers. In my case, after shopping around a bit I found all of those parts (X Ray sights, P-SAIT trigger, SRT kit, and G10 Piranha grips) for a grand total of exactly $300 delivered, tax included. I did pay a smith $30 to swap the sights and did the other modifications myself. I also added a Wolff 19 lb reduced strength mainspring to my pistol, which cost another $10.

I happened to get a good deal on a P229R NIB for $600 so the final cost was $940, still well under the price of a new Legion. But the Legion would have come with an additional magazine so I will add another $35 bringing it up to $975. Obviously, if I had paid more like $800 for my pistol, the final cost would have been very comparable.

So what about trigger action on my modified P229 compared to a Legion? I shot my pistol in .40 S&W back to back with a 9mm Legion P229 on three separate occasions. On one of those occasions I had someone else compare the two trigger actions. Two other individuals, one of whom was a gunsmith, compared the two pistols dry firing them. The unanimous consensus was that the DA trigger on my pistol was superior to that on the Legion, and the SA pull was equivalent.

Certainly, if you want all the features on the Legion it is a good value at the retail price compared to the P229R. If you want a pistol that will be virtually functionally equivalent, look around for a nice CPO or other used DA/SA P229R and modify it accordingly and you could safe a lot of cash.

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Preface...I don't have in my possession my first Sig yet, P320. I'll have it Monday. I've never taken MUCH time looking at Sig at gun shows. I'm sure to in the future. LOL. But, treat me like a curious but naive newbie.... why do I want a Legion? Why a Legion over a standard 229? I promise, no hidden meaning in my question, I really just want to hear from owners rather than read marketing materials.
Good Marketing from Sig......
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Good Marketing from Sig......
I will agree to an extent with this. I have a P320 Carry in 357, P320RX, P229C, P229R in 357, and a P229 Legion. So I am fairly versed with these.

The Legion has, as has been stated, features that make it less expensive than trying to build in, though you can come close. I tend to put G10 grips (or VZ) on everything and with the P229's they all get Gray Guns triggers and SRT if they don't have it.

I love the P226, and had a Tacops for a while. But it was just a bit too large and only useful on the range.

Now that I have the P320s they have taken my tops spots as EDC and Range guns. However, I still like shooting and carrying the others.

TBH, the P229 Legion sees the least amount of duty for me. I may end up sell it simply because I dont shoot it. Love it, just dont shoot it.

Go figure.
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It has a lot of goodies on it. But the finish isn't one of them.
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Good Marketing from Sig......
IMO, the marketing was a smart move to introduce a p226 with all the modifications asked for by shooters, produced in the new gun. Why not market the Legion as an updated version of a classic pistol at a price cheaper than you could DIY?
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