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Old 05-16-2017, 03:24 PM   #16
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I've got 4,750 rounds through my Legion. Even though it was Cerakoted I requested the rails be taped off to preserve the anodizing. What I've noticed so far in mine is that it will wear very quickly through the PVD on the rails but once it hits the shiny anodizing it stops. Mine had a lot of initial very quick wear and then for the next 4,000 rounds it's pretty much stayed the same.

For some reason I've noticed the frame finish is particularly soft. Maybe SIGs PVD doesn't bind well to the anodized aluminum? It does better on the slide so maybe it gets along better with the stainless steel?
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Old 05-16-2017, 03:52 PM   #17
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I have slight wear on my Legion in the rails after 500 rounds I expected that. The finish everywhere else is great.
I feel bad for the ones that were going to buy a Legion but decided not to because they have seen chatter online about the Legion finish.

If the Media was reporting, it would go like this,

CNN - Oh my God!! Big Powerful Sig Corporation misled the American People and Legions are flaking off all over the Country. DONT BUY A LEGION!!!! Finish will flake off and the flakes will poison your Dog. Sig is a Dog Killer!

FOX - Wear in the rails is normal. Enjoy your Legion, and Happy Shooting!
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I have slight wear on my Legion in the rails after 500 rounds I expected that. The finish everywhere else is great.
I feel bad for the ones that were going to buy a Legion but decided not to because they have seen chatter online about the Legion finish.

If the Media was reporting, it would go like this,

CNN - Oh my God!! Big Powerful Sig Corporation misled the American People and Legions are flaking off all over the Country. DONT BUY A LEGION!!!! Finish will flake off and the flakes will poison your Dog. Sig is a Dog Killer!

FOX - Wear in the rails is normal. Enjoy your Legion, and Happy Shooting!
Careful, your fan-boy is showing. Some of us have had severe and legitimate issues with the finish. There's no reason to discount other's experiences. It's nice yours has turned out so great, from those of us who's haven't, bite me.
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Old 05-17-2017, 01:23 PM   #20
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I just purchased a new P226 Legion (manufacture date of Jan 2017) and it already has signs of wear along the top and rear rails. I've never fired the pistol, just broke it down and gave it a good first cleaning. It also has several "light" gray spots, especially on the frame under the recoil spring and under the accessory rail. Coating it with oil didnt help either. As a side note, one side of the pistol's finish looks uniform, and the other side looks almost two-tone. The gunsmith also noticed it. I oiled the gun liberally during the first cleaning so it shouldnt have been an issue with no oil on the gun.

I have numerous other pistols (Sig and non-Sig) with lots of rounds through them and none are showing signs of wear already like this one. I took it back to the dealer this morning because of my concerns about the finish, and Im waiting to see what they (Sig) is going to do about it.

I wish I would have seen all these posts about Legion finish issues because I would have looked through their inventory more closely to find one that was coated better. When I went back today and looked at others they had and I saw one that looked a lot better than mine in places and worse in others. As soon as I find out whats going to happen with it Im going to do a write up with lots of pictures and my customer service experience.
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I'll back up what Sterling Archer said. Some of us have had legitimate issues with the durability of the finish on our Legion pistols relative to other black Nitron Sigs. No denying it was an issue with early production. I've not had any exposure to newer examples, so can't offer an opinion on whether Sig has resolved the problem.
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Legion Rail Wear

I had a p226 da/sa legion made February of 16 sold it and bought p226 SAO made January of '17. I never really had what I thought of as issues with the finish on either. The SAO does show less wear than the da/sa with comparable round counts. I keep very detailed records when i shoot including ammo type and brand, malfunctions, etc. I've got 680 rounds in the SAO and it shows no signs of wear others that were there's metal to metal contact just behind take down lever bar (sorry not sure the technical name). This area is black and not the gray pvd. Before firing the 1st round on the rails to each side of the hammer I could tell the finish was thinner there than the rest of the gun but it hasn't changed. I have no problem whatsoever with the finish but I do believe it's a little better on this gun verses the one I had a year ago. Enjoy that firearm friend. Sig's will never let you down.


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I've got 4,750 rounds through my Legion. Even though it was Cerakoted I requested the rails be taped off to preserve the anodizing. What I've noticed so far in mine is that it will wear very quickly through the PVD on the rails but once it hits the shiny anodizing it stops. Mine had a lot of initial very quick wear and then for the next 4,000 rounds it's pretty much stayed the same.

For some reason I've noticed the frame finish is particularly soft. Maybe SIGs PVD doesn't bind well to the anodized aluminum? It does better on the slide so maybe it gets along better with the stainless steel?
I've fired exactly 1,179 ..Wait (my On-board shot-O-meter had a smudge on the glass)...Make that 1,119 rounds fired thru mine and it looks pretty much like the OPs photo.
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OP, I went to an indoor range today and just finished cleaning my 229 Legion. After 750 rounds, I now notice wear on the rail of my frame similar to what you show in your photo in box 1.

Contrary to what others may believe, I still view this as a tool and it will have scuffs, dents, and marks. The 229 Legion has replaced my G19 as my EDC. I use a Vedder Light Tuck holster and it did leave a mark on the top of the slide. Again, I do not care!!!! If I worried about every ding, scratch, and mark on my car (not a Porsche) I would drive myself crazy. While I might be cautious to vehicles I park next to, in South Florida, most do not! If they ding your vehicle they will ask why YOU parked so close to them.

Should the finish impact the reliability of my Legion, then I will worry and find a solution. Till then,I plan on shooting the snot out of my Legion.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:42 PM   #25
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I use mobil 1 red grease on mine...it looks fine.

But the finish does suck...my MK25 is wearing much better.
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after all the comments I have seen here regarding Legion finish, I think I will stick to plain old Bead Blast Stainless.
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I bought a 9mm and a 357 about 9 months ago and am not really seeing any finish wear (tough I regularly use grease on rails). Heard a lot about this but hopefully it is fairly rare. I do notice the finish tends to get a dry look sometimes but finish is near perfect with a slight oil rubbing (seems to soak in a bit)
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Old 05-20-2017, 05:01 PM   #28
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Forgot to mention had issues with cerakote finish tough...if not legion go stainless or nitron (I actually probably prefer that got legion for sights, trigger and slightly improved grip for me due to smaller controls and undercutting)
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This has been my normal wear for a gun that shoots 100 rounds a month since they started selling the Legion in 2015. IDPA and Multigun matches every month. Countless holstering. Slide glide on the rails and metal contact points and Italian Gun Grease on the barrel and moving parts. Just a little shine on the left rear rail and chamber contact on the slide.





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