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I have always believed in dry firing only with a snap cap with my pistols. Beretta's product manuals advise against dry firing without using something to stop the firing pin. However, I hear many people saying dry firing trigger training without a stop is not a problem. Which is it? I do not want to hurt my new Sig 1911. Thank you!
I don't make it a habit, but after cleaning and lubricating, I do dry fire once to check all is good to go.
I never do it on a .22LR guns or rifle though.
SIG SAUER
From Sig's site:
It is safe to dry-fire our center fire pistols. You would want to use a snap cap or plug if extensive dry-firing is done. Always count your dry-firing in your live fire count to be sure all springs and pins are in top condition. DO NOT intentionally dry-fire any rim fire pistol such as the Mosquito, .22LR conversions or Classic Pistols.
If you want to post on a big boys forum, practice a little independent thought, rather than just cutting and a pasting.
Extensive dry firing is exactly what I'm talking about.
Here's an open offer to anyone who feels like they want to abuse their gun. Take any SIG classic pistol and dry fire it 200x. Pull the firing pin positioning pin and take a look, you won't like it.
Some might classify a reply like that as "*******-ish".
Read it straight from the manufacturer of the guns: it's fine to dry fire. If you do it a lot, use a snap cap. /story
(EDIT: In your very next post you ask someone else for sources, yet when I post a source, you say it lacks independent thought? Sounds like a plan)
Gee, ya think? And here I was questioning your ability for independent thought.
I do, however, take tremendous offense to your egregious use of profanity. It's a violation of forum rules and will have to be reported to the moderators.
(EDIT: In your very next post you ask someone else for sources, yet when I post a source, you say it lacks independent thought? Sounds like a plan)
I dry fire the **** out of mine without snap caps and never had an issue, except 22's like the other gentleman said, the firing pin on those can hit the edge of the chamber and either damage it or break the firing pin.
I find that the trigger loosens and smooths up without spending a fortune on ammo.
I also recall sig saying somewhere to count dry fires as actual shooting when it comes to replacing the springs, hmm, don't know bout you but I've never replaced a spring or had to. In fact my brother just retired from a life as a cop, carried a 229 for most of his career and says he never did either.
A little dry firing with or without Snap Caps on a centerfire gun doesn't do much wear. I can tell you from experience even with snap caps a lot of drying firing in double action will wear out and break parts.
I dont think it would cause immediate damage for most modern guns however long term some damage can be done to the firing pin. With Glocks long term dry firing without snap caps has been proven to cause damage to the breech face. With my Sigs I use snap caps and and ear plug in the space between the firing pin and the hammer.
I have been told that for limited dryfire, snap caps are not needed but if you are going to spend some serious training time with dry fire... then snap caps are advisable. They arent expensive so what the heck.
You guys can sweep the internet and call SIG to verify, but SIG 200-series pistols have been ID'd in some damage caused by excessive dry-firing.
Now what is excessive?
Who knows.
You don't need to buy anything, tho, as any piece of old leather, boot lace, wadded cloth, whatever will cushion the hammer for those who care to DF 10,000 x's a month...
This isnt a debatable question, its documented fact. All center fire guns can be dry fired as much as you want without any damage. Only rimfire guns should not be dry fired. This is basic gun operation 101. Its disturbing there is that many people on the survey that doesnt know this????
Remember to always put gas in your trucks gas tank and not on the drivers seat when filling up with fuel...
I've been thru 3 SIG armorers schools with 3 different instructors, one a custom shop gunsmith. All showed pictures of firing pin positioning pins peened from excessive dry firing and cautioned against it.
What is the basis if your rather sweeping opinion?
It is good to note that the center-fire weapon you may be dry firing is completely reassembled before this dry-firing. It is noted that dry fire when the receiver is off the slide can cause frame damage or warp the hammer.
Yeah, I got into an argument with an "expert" at the LGS about dry firing a 1911. He said that dry firing was the same as hammer forging the firing pin.
:wacko:
I know darn well I'm not the only person on here who sits on the couch and occassionaly shoots the "Bad Guys" on TV. Let's be honest!
I just have a little rubber strip I tuck in ahead of my hammer to keep the noise down.
Whatever the correct answer is to this, I don't know, but I do know that if you put a ear plug behind the hammer, it doesn't matter if you dry fire or not.
That's what I do. I have always been told growing up from my father and grandfather to not dry fire so I don't.
Do what you want with your guns/pistols, but I don't dry fire.
If you have a Sig with the solid slide pin I wouldn't dry fire it. I have two Sig 226 stainless old new stock made in 2009 and both pins broke with less than 20 dry fires without snap caps.
I don't get all this arguing...
I wear hundreds of dollars of protective equipment when I ride my motorcycle. In 20 years of riding I've only gone down once...
I don't wear it because I think I might crash.. Crashing is incredibly rare..
Why is using a $2 snap cap in a $800 gun such a big deal? Even if damage is incredibly rare?
I don't get all this arguing...
I wear hundreds of dollars of protective equipment when I ride my motorcycle. In 20 years of riding I've only gone down once...
I don't wear it because I think I might crash.. Crashing is incredibly rare..
Why is using a $2 snap cap in a $800 gun such a big deal? Even if damage is incredibly rare?
My first Sig P938 "very early" SN, with 2 dry fires drove the firing pin through to extend into the firing chamber. I had to reinstall; after that, now always use snap caps.
Jim
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