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Old 01-25-2014, 05:48 AM   #1
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Bill Introduced To Allow Carry Permits to Cross State Lines Like Drivers License

Texas Senator John Cornyn has introduced new legislation that if passed would allow concealed carry holders to travel from state to state without fear of breaking the law. The idea is similar to national reciprocity and concealed carry permits would be recognized as legal just like a drivers license.

San Antonio 1200 WOAI News Radio's Michael Board discussed the legislation with Cornyn yesterday.

"It would allow people with a concealed handgun license in Texas to travel to other states and maintain their legal status," Cornyn told 1200 WOAI's Michael Board.

Late last year Illinois finally became the 50th state with concealed carry permissions and more people than ever are applying for permits all over the country. Last week at the SHOT Show is Las Vegas it was clear manufacturers are meeting the high demand of concealed carry firearms with new lines of compact, easily concealable pocket pistols.

Last year, a similar national reciprocity bill in the Senate received more votes than Senator Dianne Feinstein's gun control legislation. National reciprocity received 57 votes and Feinstein's legislation received just 40. Both pieces of legislation failed.


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Old 01-25-2014, 06:17 AM   #2
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Even if this bill passed both the House and Senate, sadly there are not enough votes in the Senate to override a guaranteed veto by the president.
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I have always been under the opinion that CCW Permits should be covered under the full faith and credit clause just like drivers licenses. I would love to see this legislation move forward.
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It'll never happen. Even if it does, by some miracle, Commiefornikstan will never permit anyone from another state to carry concealed in this state...period. Feinstein would have a cow.
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Be careful what you wish for.

I see it going like this.

A National Data Base of Permit holders. (which someone already probably has)
A National Standard for Permit holders.
Then one day a presidential order turns all the permits into Federal Permits.
New regulations for permit holders.
A large tax on Permit holders to cover the cost of managing the program which is tied to the IRS and your healthcare program expense.


I like my State program and the way it is managed. I can live with the State's agreements with other States.
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1) I live in MD, a state where a carry permit is all but impossible. In the unlikely event this bill is passed and signed, I would expect states like MD to find some hack to still make it all but impossible.

2) Either you believe in state's rights, or you don't. You can't have it both ways.
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MD, NJ, or other states that might object to this bill's passage could just repeal their laws that allow for the issuance of concealed carry licenses, thus making the federal law non-applicable to those states.

That way, instead of just the privileged few with essentially impossible to obtain permits being allowed to carry, nobody would be allowed to carry. Seems fair to me.
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you have to comply with the state regs your traveling thru.
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Presently, the current "Reciprocity" agreements between many, many States allows one to carry in other States.
Not all of them, but many.
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I don't trust the Feds, period.

We don't need this for driver licenses, why CCW? We already have state recognition among states.
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Senator John Cornyn must be driving over to buy some weed in Colorado if he thinks that will pass.
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...We don't need this for driver licenses, why CCW? We already have state recognition among states.
All 50 States, the District of Columbia, and -- AFAIK -- the US Territories recognize driver's licenses from other states and even some other countries. The same is not true of CC licenses/permits. Reciprocity of the latter is quite limited.
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State to sate reciprocity is a patchwork system at best. There is no set of permits available to a resident of any one sate that allows carrying in the remaining 49 states and territories. Period.

Cornyn's bill, while nothing new, attempts to make any license issued by any one state valid in every other state, thus negating the need for reciprocity.

And as stated before, there are not enough votes in the Senate to pass this outright, let alone override a guaranteed veto by the president. Period.

Even in the past when Republicans controlled the House, the Senate, and the Presidency, bills like this did not pass.

And as stated before, passage of this bill could provoke some states to repeal their already restrictive and discretionary CCW license laws, actually reducing the number of licensed individuals.
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Be careful what you wish for.

I see it going like this.

A National Data Base of Permit holders. (which someone already probably has)
A National Standard for Permit holders.
Then one day a presidential order turns all the permits into Federal Permits.
New regulations for permit holders.
A large tax on Permit holders to cover the cost of managing the program which is tied to the IRS and your healthcare program expense.


I like my State program and the way it is managed. I can live with the State's agreements with other States.
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You DO NOT want the federal government becoming the regulating body on this!
Retain State's rights on this.
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...Cornyn's bill, while nothing new, attempts to make any license issued by any one state valid in every other state, thus negating the need for reciprocity.
Actually, that is reciprocity. It's not one license for all, it's recognition of others' licenses as being as valid as one's own.
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