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Old 02-04-2017, 07:56 AM   #16
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Each individual has to decide what they are comfortable with.

I would be extremely uncomfortable pocket carrying a gun with one in the chamber if it was not in a pocket holster.

For years I have pocket carried a variety of guns (LCR, LCP, LC9, XDs, P238) with a round chambered and ready to go and each one is carried in a Remora pocket holster specific to that gun.

I am comfortable carrying that way. Otherwise I would not bother carrying at all.
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Old 02-04-2017, 08:21 AM   #17
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Is every small gun now a "pocket gun"? I think we have lost sight of the intention of the pocket gun...a safe, deep concealment, bug.

There are so many great choices for the pocket. I just don't see the 938 (I've owned two) as one of them. I'm not opposed to SA Condition #1, but how about a more manageable conceal in the 238 (I own one)?
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I'm sure this will open Pandora's proverbial box but here goes - I've had my p938 Equinox since Nov 2014. I bought it with the intent of using it for daily pocket carry - replacing my Ruger LCP380. Since buying the Sig I've put about 1,000 assorted rounds through the gun without incident. Because I'm lazy and reluctant to accept change I have continued to carry the diminiative LCP. I carry the LCP without a round in the chamber. In an earlier post I explained that I have come to the realization that I will start to pocket carry the p938. I will carry the flush fit six round magazine to minimize size and weight. I plan to carry the. sig without a round in the chamber. I fully understand that the gun is designed to be carried cocked and locked. I welcome other's comments.


Make sure the holster you choose guards the right side thumb safety.

The Alabama pocket holster I used to use did not. One time I across the truck to access the glove compartment, pressing my thigh (and the gun in my pocket) against the console. The safety was switched off in the process.

I replaced the Alabama Pocket Holster with The C-3 pocket holster, which protects both the right and left side thumb safety. Never happened again.

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Make sure the holster you choose guards the right side thumb safety.

The Alabama pocket holster I used to use did not. One time I across the truck to access the glove compartment, pressing my thigh (and the gun in my pocket) against the console. The safety was switched off in the process.

I replaced the Alabama Pocket Holster with The C-3 pocket holster, which protects both the right and left side thumb safety. Never happened again.
If the P938 was a true 1911, with the inherently light trigger pull of a well tuned 1911, I would tend to agree with this sentiment. The P938, with it's relatively heavy trigger pull, ~6 pounds, give or take, really just needs to have the trigger/trigger guard protected. Quite often, I carried the P938 appendix in nothing more than a Fricke Zach style trigger guard.
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Are you married to the idea of pocket carry?

The P938 and P238 both come with a plastic holster that nobody likes... until they break down and try it.
Most any shirt (not tucked in) will conceal it well with the supplied holster.

Condition 1 is the only way I would carry, but that's only my opinion. I'd be afraid to carry C 1 in a pocket. Again, only my opinion. To each his own.
Hope whatever you decide works out well and safely for you.



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I have used the plastic holster at the range. Practice pulling gun and taking safety off. Works great.
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Old 02-05-2017, 09:32 AM   #22
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I have a F3 pocket holster for my P938. When I carry in my front pocket, I carry the P938 with a cartridge chambered/cocked and locked.

With a good pocket holster it should not be an issue.
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I have been using a Red Dog Gunleather "wallet" holster for my 938 & 238. The leather is thin and a flap goes over the butt so it looks like a wallet if seen in my pocket, not as convenient for a quick draw, but more concealed. The leather has molded to the safety so that helps in retaining in the safe position.
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I had the same reluctance with my p238 prior to carrying it. I carried the Kel Tec .32 (before the .380 revolution), the Ruger LCP, and a Diamondback .380. I finally settled on the Diamondback as the best combo (for ME) of size and shootablility, but RELIABILITY was questionable. It simply did not go bang anywhere near often enough to make me happy. I called Diamondback and they told me to take it to a gunsmith (which ****** me off). I wanted them to offer to fix it for me. After that, I started to pocket carry my Sig P238. I have now carried it daily for several years. Although I do not profess to be "perfect" with it, I have become very comfortable with drawing it and dropping the safety and very comfortable (but not complacent) about loaded cocked and locked in my pocket. I practice that daily and THINK (how do we know for sure?) that I could do it if ever necessary. Although I have not drawn it under duress, I have several times reached into my pocket, finger on the safety and prepared to draw it (random strangers approaching me in dark parking lots). Again I have never drawn/used it, but I feel pretty comfortable with it being on me as my (as I call it) "Little Buddy". I carry it in a Desantis Superfly pocket holster. Again I am not suggesting this weapon or combo or style is right for everyone, and I have other weapons that I carry (instead of and/or in addition to) but this is my go-to configuration for light daily clothing and at work/out and about in my relatively warmer home of Nashville. My typical daily attire consists of khaki slacks and a golf shirt--the sig p238 literally disappears in my pocket. I know and interact with several cops on an almost daily basis and I frequently ask them if I am printing and they all say "no".
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OP, watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVPiic-ELoM


That said, I share your concerns about the P938 (plus I find it just a tad too big and heavy for comfortable pocket carry). I pocket carry a Beretta Pico.
Thanks for the video. It really shows how fast and unpredictable encounters can and do happen. One in the chamber is a must.

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I always carry my Sig P238, Cocked and locked with a round in the chamber.

These Baby 1911's are very simple to carry loaded. This model and the Sig P938 have a Safe way to carry.

First thing I do is rack the slide and leave it open. I place the thumb safety on and leave it on.
I place a single .380 cartridge in the chamber and release the slide. It will close fast and lock the Cartridge in place. The thumb safety is already on. The Slide is in battery and the thumb safety is on SAFE.

Then, insert a loaded magazine. Insert into your holster and Carry.

Like someone mentioned above. Find a Holster that will only expose the Grip so you won't inadvertently grab the trigger, even though you have the safety on.This is a good tip for any carry Holster..

You can practice drawing and releasing the safety.
These are very safe firearms but you must follow all safe practices and concentrate on the task at hand.
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I use a Sticky to front pocket my 938. It covers the safeties and the gun comes out very nicely. I feel quite comfortable cocked & locked.
While I agree pocket is not the fastest, it is what keeps me armed the most.
I always have a tucked shirt, and no jacket, and getting an IWB isn't any faster while standing.
Seated is a bit problematic.
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I place a single .380 cartridge in the chamber and release the slide. It will close fast and lock the Cartridge in place. The thumb safety is already on. The Slide is in battery and the thumb safety is on SAFE.
Placing a round in the chamber and releasing the slide is one way to break your extractor. This forces the extractor over the cartridge rim rather than sliding up the groove in the rim. The ideal way to load is have the slide back with safety on. Insert a loaded magazine. Pull slide back and release to chamber a round. Remove magazine and top off and reinsert magazine.
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I didn't read every post but my daughter bought her a P938 today and I asked her if she wanted on in the chamber.She said no. I gave her the reasoning on why she needs to have one in the chamber at all times.I told her it's SAO so she will have to pull the hammer back before it will shoot. I told her if she needed to use it then it would take to long to chamber one and it could be a life or death situation.I told her all she has to do is pull the hammer back and she can shoot. I won't tell her to have one in the chamber and the hammer already back and have the safety on. For me,I am not comfortable with doing it myself. I can still pull the hammer back and have the gun in the same hand so I feel more comfortable doing it that way. I have horrible luck so I'd be the one that would shoot myself or someone else because if it. I try to be as careful and safe as possible with all firearms. Once that bullet comes out of the barrel and hits whatever it hits,it's all on me and I really would hate to hurt an innocent person. I'd actually hate to have to ever use my firearm in to defend myself,but if my life is in danger,then I have to do what I feel is needed. I'd rather have it with me and not need it then not have it with me and need it.
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Guys, if you are concerned about carrying your P938 cocked and locked, then I would advise that you strongly consider buying a different gun. You could get a P320 subcompact, for example, or a DAK gun or some other DAO with a heavier trigger if you are truly worried about an accidental discharge. But these excuses are hurting my eyes.

Either resolve to train yourself to the point that you no longer fear the SAO gun and are prepared to carry in condition 1... or get a different gun.
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