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Old 02-02-2017, 05:09 PM   #1
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P938 Pocket carry - proper condition

I'm sure this will open Pandora's proverbial box but here goes - I've had my p938 Equinox since Nov 2014. I bought it with the intent of using it for daily pocket carry - replacing my Ruger LCP380. Since buying the Sig I've put about 1,000 assorted rounds through the gun without incident. Because I'm lazy and reluctant to accept change I have continued to carry the diminiative LCP. I carry the LCP without a round in the chamber. In an earlier post I explained that I have come to the realization that I will start to pocket carry the p938. I will carry the flush fit six round magazine to minimize size and weight. I plan to carry the. sig without a round in the chamber. I fully understand that the gun is designed to be carried cocked and locked. I welcome other's comments.
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Practice, practice practice
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What ae you going to do if your off hand is immobilized? Throw the gun at your assailant?
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I pocket carried an LCP Custom (7+1, with a round in the chamber) for about a year before getting my P938. I now pocket carry the Sig cocked and locked (6+1, again with one in the pipe) and have two additional 7 round spare magazines that I carry at times. Carrying with an empty chamber is not for me...

I should mention that I pocket carry the 938 with a Remora holster that completely covers the trigger and, though the trigger on the 938 is single action, it's pretty stiff for a single action trigger. So, I feel comfortable pocket carrying in condition 1 with this pistol. To each his own...

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Carrying empty isn't my thing but I also don't like the thought of pocket carrying a single action auto in condition one. Whatever you decide, be careful and be safe.
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Since you asked...

Practice until you are comfortable with cocked & locked. The mechanics will not fail, only human error will cause an undesired issue.

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I have two recommendations for you:

1) Get yourself a proper pocket holster for your P938 (I highly recommend the Mika Pocket Holster) ;

2) Carry your P938 faithfully in the holster in the pocket for one full month with one proviso: carry cocked and locked, but as you prefer, with an empty chamber.

After this one month trial, evaluate how many times you observed the hammer fall on the empty chamber. My prediction, assuming you have a proper holster with NOTHING else in the pocket with the properly holstered P938, is ZERO.

At this point, you can make the objective decision to carry the P938 as designed, cocked and locked with a round in the chamber . . . or not. I hope you make the correct decision.

The trigger pull on the P938 is actually quite heavy, not your typical 1911. Toward the end of my one year experiment of carrying my P938 EDC, it was with the hammer back, round in chamber and thumb safety off. I'm not advocating that step for you or anyone else, but that trigger pull really isn't like a real 1911.
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I have two recommendations for you:

1) Get yourself a proper pocket holster for your P938 (I highly recommend the Mika Pocket Holster) ;

2) Carry your P938 faithfully in the holster in the pocket for one full month with one proviso: carry cocked and locked, but as you prefer, with an empty chamber.

After this one month trial, evaluate how many times you observed the hammer fall on the empty chamber. My prediction, assuming you have a proper holster with NOTHING else in the pocket with the properly holstered P938, is ZERO.

At this point, you can make the objective decision to carry the P938 as designed, cocked and locked with a round in the chamber . . . or not. I hope you make the correct decision.

The trigger pull on the P938 is actually quite heavy, not your typical 1911. Toward the end of my one year experiment of carrying my P938 EDC, it was with the hammer back, round in chamber and thumb safety off. I'm not advocating that step for you or anyone else, but that trigger pull really isn't like a real 1911.
Excellent suggestion. I will try this.
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That said, I share your concerns about the P938 (plus I find it just a tad too big and heavy for comfortable pocket carry). I pocket carry a Beretta Pico.

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I pocket carry a LCP sometimes but won't with my 938 because the tail pokes me when I sit. Never had a concern about the hammer accidentally dropping.
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Excellent suggestion. I will try this.
MC offered excellent advice, IMO. Personally, I would never pocket carry a SA gun, even in a good holster. There are too many variables that make me nervous about the prospect. For example: the gun is small, but it isn't truly a "pocket" pistol. Most true pocket pistols have rounded edges, no hammers, and are significantly smaller. When I think pocket pistol I think of the Seecamp or the Kel-Tec .380.

The P938 can fit in your pocket, sure, but when you're under duress and try to pull your pistol the likelihood of snagging it is high, even in a looser pocket. I'm not a fan of "pocket carry" for this reason. There will always be someone who claims they have it all down pat. Ran into one of them not too long ago who carries a micro 1911 in his front pocket and insisted he was a pro at getting it out, and since he'd fought in Vietnam, he was more than able to get it done at the age of 76. Frankly, he turned out to be an idiot, but that's a separate issue. LOL

It all comes down to this, however. What do you feel most comfortable with? Like I said, I think MC gave sound advice. If you do that and come to the point where you are comfortable carrying this gun cocked and locked in your pocket, great! But if it were me, and you don't get to that point, I would never carry a gun I did not feel safe with a round in the chamber. If you have to take it from your pocket to an IWB holster system do it. Shooter preference trumps all, but I do always advise carrying a gun with a round in the chamber if you can.
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In the case of condition 3, you are going to have to be mindful that if you're put on the defensive you'll first have to find cover, pull your weapon, chamber the bullet, take aim, and shoot...very rarely, in a personal defense situation, will you have the time to do all that. Condition 1 is the way to go, but not pocket carry if you're going to carry condition 1. Personally, if you were going to pocket carry, I'm of the mind that you'd probably want to go with condition 2 in a DA/SA config. Unfortunately your P938 isn't capable of that.
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I have two recommendations for you:

1) Get yourself a proper pocket holster for your P938 (I highly recommend the Mika Pocket Holster) ;

2) Carry your P938 faithfully in the holster in the pocket for one full month with one proviso: carry cocked and locked, but as you prefer, with an empty chamber.

After this one month trial, evaluate how many times you observed the hammer fall on the empty chamber. My prediction, assuming you have a proper holster with NOTHING else in the pocket with the properly holstered P938, is ZERO.

At this point, you can make the objective decision to carry the P938 as designed, cocked and locked with a round in the chamber . . . or not. I hope you make the correct decision.

The trigger pull on the P938 is actually quite heavy, not your typical 1911. Toward the end of my one year experiment of carrying my P938 EDC, it was with the hammer back, round in chamber and thumb safety off. I'm not advocating that step for you or anyone else, but that trigger pull really isn't like a real 1911.

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MC offered excellent advice, IMO. Personally, I would never pocket carry a SA gun, even in a good holster. There are too many variables that make me nervous about the prospect. For example: the gun is small, but it isn't truly a "pocket" pistol. Most true pocket pistols have rounded edges, no hammers, and are significantly smaller. When I think pocket pistol I think of the Seecamp or the Kel-Tec .380.

The P938 can fit in your pocket, sure, but when you're under duress and try to pull your pistol the likelihood of snagging it is high, even in a looser pocket. I'm not a fan of "pocket carry" for this reason. There will always be someone who claims they have it all down pat. Ran into one of them not too long ago who carries a micro 1911 in his front pocket and insisted he was a pro at getting it out, and since he'd fought in Vietnam, he was more than able to get it done at the age of 76. Frankly, he turned out to be an idiot, but that's a separate issue. LOL

It all comes down to this, however. What do you feel most comfortable with? Like I said, I think MC gave sound advice. If you do that and come to the point where you are comfortable carrying this gun cocked and locked in your pocket, great! But if it were me, and you don't get to that point, I would never carry a gun I did not feel safe with a round in the chamber. If you have to take it from your pocket to an IWB holster system do it. Shooter preference trumps all, but I do always advise carrying a gun with a round in the chamber if you can.

I am in a similar situation to the OP, and this is good advice, thanks guys!
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You asked yourself that the conditions of the threat is life threatening, then your decision to be, at the ready is the fight of YOUR LIFE...Me and my wife....is and ALWAYS will be at the ready. Good luck
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Condition One. Cocked and Locked. As has been suggested, carry empty for awhile until you are comfortable.

Empty when you need it could be a really bad day.

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