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Old 04-14-2017, 06:07 AM   #1
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Picked up a SAS 938 yesterday. New to the forum.

Hey all, I just picked up a brand new p938 yesterday that I had transferred in from another shop and decided to join the forum here. Looks like a lot of great info here.

I do have a couple questions that the search feature couldn't help with.

Is it normal for the magazines to take a butt-load of force to get them into the gun (with the slide back)? Mine came with the 7 round mag and once the mag gets about halfway into the gun (even if it's empty) it stops and I have to hit it pretty hard on my fist, or thigh or the table to get it all the way in and seated. Is it normal for that to be very stiff?

Also, I have the SAS model and the grips that came on it are so dark brown they almost look black. Looks nothing like the photos online and on Sig's website of being light-colored wood and honestly it looks like ****. I'm wondering if there's just a ton of variation in the coloring of the wood on this model?

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Welcome and congrats! Be sure to read all the threads on the P938. It will help!
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Is it normal for the magazines to take a butt-load of force to get them into the gun (with the slide back)? Mine came with the 7 round mag and once the mag gets about halfway into the gun (even if it's empty) it stops and I have to hit it pretty hard on my fist, or thigh or the table to get it all the way in and seated. Is it normal for that to be very stiff?
As the top right edge of the mag tube contacts the underside of the mag catch (about half way into the grip), there will be increased resistance as the mag tube pushes the mag catch to the right. I'd say it's normal to have to give it a thump to get past that point although I've never had to use more than the heal of my hand to seat the mag.

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Welcome and congrats! Be sure to read all the threads on the P938. It will help!
Yea, that will keep him busy for a while...a good long while.
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If the slide is to the rear the mags should go in a lot easier then if the slide is closed.Look at the mags to make sure no scratches.If they do might be tad too long grip screws.The grips on the web page show walnut.. the goncalo are much darker. What is the date on your build? It's on the box.
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Post a picture of the grip color. As to the magazine seating it's probably the new mag catch spring. I just got my P938 SAS back from Sig yesterday and the new mag catch spring now requires quite a bit of force to get the mag seated. Which to me is preferable to the mags wanting to fall out during shooting or when riding in my pocket holster (both of those situations have occurred). But yeah they are hard to get seated.
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If your mags have the plastic pinky extension, check to see if there is any interference between the top of the plastic and the grip frame. I had to do a bit of trimming on one of mine to get it to insert without undue force.
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Welcome to 938ness! As you can tell by other responses, your mag issue is not normal. I have a couple of them and the mags go in easy, and never come out. I also never have any free rounds drop out when I drop a half empty mag that some people talk about.

My SAS is in my avatar...Genalco grips are medium dark brown. I bought the black hogues at the same time I got the gun, but honestly, the wood looks so good and feels so good I've never installed them. Instead I just bought another 938 Army Green that has the Sig rubber grips. They also feel great, fill the hand a little more, but it's pears vs apples. I haven't seen a difference in the way they shoot. However I will say that the wood is easier to slip in and out of jeans or dockers pockets without a holster.

Anyone wanna buy my Hogue grips for a 938? $30 shipped.
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Your mag issue does not sound normal.

SAS grips should be brown (walnut). Are you sure you don't have blackwood grips. Does your slide say SAS on the side?

If you have some kind of thin grips the screws may be protruding into the magwell.

All things to check out.

Good luck with it. I love my SAS!

Caution: do NOT overtighten the grip screws. The frame holes can be stripped.
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Thanks for all the ideas. I'll check the production date when I get home and get some pics to upload. It's definitely darker than most of your SAS avatar pics that some of you have. Not a big deal either way since I might get some G10 grips for it instead.

It looks like there's a hundred pages of info on "mainspring housing" issues and some other stuff. Was most of that cleared up with the newer made production runs?
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It looks like there's a hundred pages of info on "mainspring housing" issues and some other stuff. Was most of that cleared up with the newer made production runs?[/QUOTE]

Yes. The most common issue that seems to still pop up are mags dropping while shooting. Mystery as to why sig still lets them leave the factory without knowing what guns will need to be fixed for that.Kinda strange as if you get one that does it like me sig fixes it and no more problems But as you know any gun today can have less common issues that pop up on a production made gun.
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Back to post #3 and what ThnkFrst was saying . . .


If the mag is stopping half way up, that's about where it reaches and pushes the slide release to the right, just as if you pushed the mag release button by hand. So, first thing to check is while pushing and holding the mag release button in, how does the mag feel going in? It should go in as smooth as butter. If it does, repeat test with another mag and inspect right side forward at top of mag, as that's the part that activates the mag catch.

Will an empty mag fall out when the slide is locked back and the mag release button is pushed? Does a different mag behave in the same way?

If mags don't drop out something is interfering. First try an empty mag with slide in battery and hammer down. Mag release should drop the mag, now again with hammer cocked (in case somehow there's interference due to hammer/strut/mainspring, sear spring etc. - however unlikely).
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