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Old 04-17-2017, 09:08 PM   #1
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Brand new P938, slide locked until safety flick

Just picked up a P938 Equinox today. Did a quick field strip, lubed all the areas that looked like they could be wear surfaces with grease, reassembled, everything felt great. Put 200 rounds of Blazer 124 FMJ through it, then finished up with 6 rounds of HSTs, everything was fine -- no FTL/FTF whatsoever. Unloaded it completely, let it cool down a bit, and put it back in the case.

Brought it home, then took it out of the case. Attempted to rack the slide, no go. Moved like a couple millimeters then locked against something. I tried pulling fairly hard, but it was definitely blocked up by something. Confused, I tried ejecting the mag, no change. Then I flicked the safety from safe to unsafe, and then the slide moved freely again. Tried a bunch of dry fires and reracks, with and without mags, no problem since.

That odd "failure" is a little scary for what might be the carry gun. Any idea what might have gone wrong there and/or what to check?
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Old 04-17-2017, 10:49 PM   #2
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You can not rack the slide with the safety on. Sounds to me like it is working properly. Unless I am missing something.
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Well, at the moment I'm able to rack it all day with the safety on and eject rounds. So, something either was wrong at that moment, or it's wrong now.
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If the hammer is down, and the safety is engaged, the slide will not rack as the safety lever cams into the hammer and prevents it from cocking. Flick the safety off (disengaged), and life returns to normal - slide racks as expected.

This is an artifact of a very good safety feature of the gun, and is in contrast to the 1911 slide which cannot be racked if the safety is engaged. As carried, condition one or locked and loaded, you can unload the gun and remove the round from the chamber with the safety on. You can also load the gun with the safety on, as long as the hammer is cocked and locked.

Note the safety cams the hammer back just a tiny bit further than the full cock position, thus the sear is not holding the hammer back when on safe - the safety lever is. When you flick off the safety, then the sear can do its thing.

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Aha! Thanks so much for the clarification!

This is different behavior from my P226 Legion SAO, which happily let's me rack the slide from decocked and safe.

Interesting to know that the traditional 1911 design doesn't even allow racking from safety-on, which seems like a design flaw to me. But apparently I'm just spoiled from the 226.

I'm new to this whole gun ownership thing. So I really appreciate the details. Thanks again!
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Aha! Thanks so much for the clarification!

This is different behavior from my P226 Legion SAO, which happily let's me rack the slide from decocked and safe.

Interesting to know that the traditional 1911 design doesn't even allow racking from safety-on, which seems like a design flaw to me. But apparently I'm just spoiled from the 226.

I'm new to this whole gun ownership thing. So I really appreciate the details. Thanks again!
It is true.

The safety on a 1911 fits in a notch on the slide and locks it into position and does have to be swiped off in order to bring the slide rearward.



Generally when racking the slide rearward, my gun hand will also have the grip safety defeated as well.

The 1911 has some unique operating methods, but it can make for a very nice weapon in it's various forms. I like my little lightweight 3" Defender.....perhaps more than it likes me at times. Getting the extractor tuned was a process as it came fresh from the factory with a penchant for ejecting cases directly into my face. I have a pair of safety glasses that have the scratches to show it. This gun is like the Jack Russell Terrier that you love, yet he chews your furniture.......


I've been a 1911 fan for ages and recently went back to adding a P226 to my collection this week....was able to get some range time with it yesterday. 7 yards on every target...


Fun times. I have to work on my DA/SA transition. The DA resulted in a low flier every time and the rest of the SA shots grouped in a tidy little group. Looking forward to getting back to the range later today, I hope.




low left flyer:









My final target from the new P226 TacOps:




This P226 TacOps was bought with a desire to use (with a weapons light) as a nightstand gun......yet the SRT trigger is screaming for me to shoot it more.

I could see running some flush fit magazines and new grips on it....and use it a carry gun.
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