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Old 01-27-2016, 07:49 AM   #16
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Thanks for this. I'm a new CWP holder and new to this pistol, this forum has been very helpful.
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Old 01-27-2016, 07:52 AM   #17
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Glad to hear that on both points. Let us know how your new 238 runs for you.
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Old 01-28-2016, 04:20 PM   #18
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I wouldn't have known about these oil points with out this sticky, which may well have caused problems down the road a ways .. are these oil points also explained in the manual .. I haven't received my P238 yet so manual yet to look at .

Are there any other points that a new P238 owner should know about that may not be explained in the manual ?
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As a new shooter and a new owner of a 238 I called Sig to ask about where to lube beyond what the owner's manual and many videos show. I asked about the trigger area and the area of the hammer. I was told that there is a kind of permanent grease in these areas and there is no need to go there. I do wonder how permanent that grease is. I do clean and lube after each session regardless of how many rounds I go through.
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You can get a download of owner's manuals here on Sig's web site.
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Also, if you click on the tab to the right on that page there are maintenance guides.

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Old 01-29-2016, 10:50 AM   #21
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As a new shooter and a new owner of a 238 I called Sig to ask about where to lube beyond what the owner's manual and many videos show. I asked about the trigger area and the area of the hammer. I was told that there is a kind of permanent grease in these areas and there is no need to go there. I do wonder how permanent that grease is. I do clean and lube after each session regardless of how many rounds I go through.
This wouldn't be the first time that I've said something here that is counter to SIG's position on the point…and might not be the last.

All the SIG manuals that I've viewed limit the disassembly/cleaning/lubrication to "field strip" only and this is true of the P238/938 as well. It's just my opinion (and nothing more) that the mechanicals that are housed behind the grip panels deserve equal treatment to those that are accessible with the slide removed. They get dirty and dry and can affect pistol function just like everything else.

It's not that SIG doesn't believe this to be true. They offer service packages to perform this work for a price and recommend that it be performed annually IIRC. And that's good because it needs to be done, especially if the firearm is employed in a SD role.

It's just a matter of personal philosophy, and mine is "my defense, my firearm, my responsibility". With some effort/study, minimal equipment and proper execution, I'm confident that I can perform these maintenance functions in the comfort of my home at less expense and get more satisfaction than sending it off to SSI.

But in the end, I'm just another guy with a gun on a forum talking about what works for him. Really, that's all.

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It's not that SIG doesn't believe this to be true. They offer service packages to perform this work for a price and recommend that it be performed annually IIRC. And that's good because it needs to be done, especially if the firearm is employed in a SD role.
Questions... is this annual maintenance something a mechanically-apt person can do without factory intervention? I just did a basic strip-and-clean the other night to my 938 (first time I've done that to a pistol since the 1990's) and it was simpler that I remember. I've got presses, punches, blocks... tools coming out of my ears (I'm a mechanic & engineer) but not enough info on the weapon itself. I think what I'm asking is... barring malfunction or damage, can the weapon be maintained sans factory intervention? Do they have any specialized tools I might lack? (Other than tools of convenience to speed up assembly/service on their end.) I'm sure they might have proprietary manufacturer information the average pistol owner doesn't based on the fact that the build the guns. Kind of thinking out loud there, but I'd like to get an informed opinion on it.
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Not sure if this matters but thought I would say something in case it did ..

I noticed last night when I lubed my new P238 that in the above picture the bar that is labeled 7. disconnector to frame and 8. disconnector to trigger bar is solid and doesn't have holes in it as the picture shows ..

Don't know if the picture shows a change or mine has a newer style disconnector since the date of the weapon in the picture is unknown to me ..

The Born on Date for my P-238 is Nov 2014 even though it is new off the shelf ..
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I wonder if it's a difference between the P238 and P938. I no longer have a P238 but my P938 from 2013 has the holes.


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I wonder if it's a difference between the P238 and P938. I no longer have a P238 but my P938 from 2013 has the holes.


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So its a picture of a P938 and not a P238 .. makes sense then the difference ..
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Old 02-10-2016, 04:02 PM   #26
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Dave R .. very interesting and really doesn't look like its very difficult to do .. Thought since it says you have to send it back to Sig if the ejector gets pushed down to far it was a major endeavor to correct ..

Thank you for this video by Melody Lauer .. Video on how to fix the ejector if it is pushed too far down .. no need to send back to Sig


Maybe it needs to be made into a Sticky .. How do you nominate a post for a sticky ?
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whitewabit, I think this thread is already a sticky. This can just be part of it.

Hope you never need to do this but if you do and you have large hands, a small table top vice will come in handy. I've done it with and without a vice and prefer the vice.

Also, the Colt Mustang sear spring puts a bit less pressure on the ejector than the Sig sear spring does so as long as you're careful you'd probably have to push pretty hard on the ejector to get the Sig to over extend.

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And one more thing...don't skimp on the lube.

There is a lot of metal on metal contact with SIGS and that requires generous lube to continue functioning well.

My recommendation is a good gun great, my favorite is WeaponShield's grease.

Applyl well the underside of the frame rails where the natural recoil impulse of the gun will cause the slide rails to rub particularly hard against the underside of the frame rail.
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Thanks for all the info on this thread. Being a new owner of a p238 I'm finding all of this info very helpful. I have been cleaning after each visit to the range. Is it enough to just put a few drops of oil on the slide or should I be applying grease. I've put through about 300 rounds with no issues.
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So, after a fun session at the range today, I extensively cleaned and lubed my (newish) P938..... only to find this thread showing me about 3 places that I missed!
Thanks, for this informative thread. OK, grip panels coming off now.
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