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I have a question that I hope will not be taken in the wrong way. I would like to ask you about the general quality of the SIG P 938. I have been scanning over the forms and there do seem to be a fair number of problems. On the other hand, I realized that the vast majority of people do not rush to a forum to report that the gun is working fine. So, can you help me come to a general appreciation of the overall quality of the Sig Sauer pistol line with specific reference to the P938? Is Sig still living up to its reputation as equal to a Glock?
One of My Cousins Sons has a P 938 with a 2012 build date. other than cleaning and changing out spring every so often He's not had any problems. He's put 15,000+ rounds thru it.
There were problems with the mainspring housing (MSH) design on the earlier releases of that model that caused most of the issues. However, that has been corrected with a redesigned MSH. If you buy a new-production model you will be fine.
I have a P938 and my wife has a P238. No issues with either. Shot all sorts of ammo, including steel case with no problems. I replaced the plastic serrated triggers on both pistols. The original trigger on the P938 cut into my finger - happens to some not all. Changed the MSH and sear springs on a just in case basis. Otherwise just shoot, clean, lube, repeat as necessary.
I have had mine since November 2013. No problems, I love to shoot it and it carries great. I keep it clean, use grease and shoot it a lot. I never had the MSH/sear problem even though mine had the originals. I did update them when I installed a Galloway Precision flat trigger but probably did not need to do so. If you want a small pistol that shoots like a bigger one but is still very easy to carry, go for it.
Wife and I each have 238s for EDC. No issues at about 1000 rounds each. Freaking super accurate. Cleaned, lubed and greased after each range session.
(Slides = grease, rotates = oil)
Lusting for 226 Scorpion 9 mm!!
Wife and I each have 238s for EDC. No issues at about 1000 rounds each. Freaking super accurate. Cleaned, lubed and greased after each range session.
(Slides = grease, rotates = oil)
Lusting for 226 Scorpion 9 mm!!
The accuracy you can get with the combination of SA and .380 is a very attractive package, no doubt about that. Thank you for your sharing that info. Cheers!
I have owned one P238 and two P938's (Still own one 938) and I can tell you from experience and reading these boards, You either get one that is great out of the box and never gives you trouble or you get one that has to go back to Sig 2-3 or 4 times.
I absolutely loved the P938 but with my first one (About 2 years ago) it was nothing but problems so after coming back from Sig a third time, I sold it. But I had every intention of getting another one a few months down the road after they started fielding the upgraded parts in the newer ones.
I bought my wife a new P938 about a year ago (Build date of OCT 15 2015)
and it has gone back for mag drop issue, broken extractor and now the hammer is following the slide back (rarely but still).
Bought my wife a new Colt Mustang FE so looks like I will be dropping the 938 off at Sig for repair in the near future.
At least the pro shop is only 8 miles away.. so turnaround time is usually under a week.
I am hoping to keep the P938 if you can believe it. I love the damn thing that much. If it comes back and proves I can rely on it then I will have to do a bit of work to "convince" the wife to keep it.
Anyway it's up to you.... Hopefully you get one that proves reliable from the start..
I think the 938 is like some here say, a temperamental sports car. As a pistol it seems to have been shrunken and lightened to an inth degree around the caliber it contains. To have the "sports car" of pocket pistols with the biggest engine in the tiniest chassis you are always on the verge of potential trouble.
So far mine, with a birthday of April 2016, the only problem has been one ever so slightly loose grip screw.
Well, I thank you all for your input. I got the call today and my application to purchase was finally given a "proceed". I will be picking up a P938 Extreme from Academy in about 50 minutes. Will not get to the range with it until next week sometime, as I have to go out of town on Sat. to chat with my dissertation director. Wish me luck (with the pistol I mean)!
The first time I took my 938 to the range, I had two ftf. Put the rounds back in gun and they fired. Since that time I have had no problems with it. The first time I was using different rounds in the magazines at same time. The two ftf were hp. don't remember brand. I believe they were 115 grain. I have fired different brands and weights in it without any problems so far, since then. I have been considering using only 124 grain in all my 9mm. Still have plenty of 115 grain.
Be sure to give it a good cleaning before you first take it out. SIG can put a lot of packing goo in the gun. Love mine and sure you will like yours a well.
Thank you for that reminder. It is easy in the excitement of a new gun to forget the basics. I am not immune and so do appreciate the reminder. Cheers!
I'll know more in a couple weeks myself as I have a new SIG on the way.
The build quality from what I can see from the one I bought is bar none. Meaning it's superb.
And I will not write it off if I have any issues until I determined it's actually the gun and not me. I owned two Glocks in the .45 camp, one was excellent the other one had issues and it wasn't me, however it could have very well of been ammo related, needless to say I did not have the money or time to keep trying out different carry ammo and I simply did not trust it.
It's a fine line sometimes, especially when you get into sub-compacts where any shooter error is amplified, i.e. weak grip/limp wristing etc. But the public is crying out for these small guns that they can carry and they want them fairly powerful. I for one will never ever buy or shoot a heavy round again out of such a small and lite weight gun.
If you don't enjoy shooting your carry gun you will not practice with it.
Anyway I'm looking forward to my new SIG and feel rather confident in it's ability.
I've got two P238HD's and love them. Both are great shooters and have been reliable....flawless really. Occasionally will have a slide not lock on empty but that could be my thumb on the slide stop.
Just got my first P938. It's also the Extreme like yours. Got it Thursday 9/8 went to range 9/9. Not one bobble, 165 rounds most of which were 115gr reloads. The rest Fed HST and Hornady Critical Duty all standard pressure.
I have two friends with 938's. One of them had to send his back to Sig for the MSH issue. They sent him a prepaid label and had the gun back to him within a couple weeks. Gun has been fine ever since. My other friend, whose gun is older has had no problems.
I think they have all the kinks worked out on the 938. I wouldn't expect any trouble at all out of a new production gun. IMO, Sig leads the way with these pocket 380 and 9mm pistols. In either caliber they are the easiest shooting guns in their class. Great sights, great triggers, enough weight to mitigate recoil. Better than any of the plastic guns. I know, I own several other brands in 380 and 9mm.
I have 1700 plus through my P938 Blackwood. I have had one malfunction which, in fairness, may have been my fault and not the gun. I also had issues with the extended mag dropping. My solution to that has been to use the 6 round mags only. Aside from those two things, my gun has been flawless with every type of ammo that I have fed it. It's super accurate, easy to carry and a good looking pistol.
That said, it's as others have posted. It seems like you either get one that runs great or get one that has to go back to the factory. I had to send back a new S&W 617 due to misfires after only owning it a couple of days. S&W customer service was great and I got it back in less than two weeks but the point is, SIG is not the only ones with quality control or design problems. It's the world we live in today and it isn't just guns.
The replacement 938 Extreme that SIG provided me (Mar 2015 build date) had some issues within the first 400 rounds; guide rod came loose, 7 round mags dropped. SIG replaced the mag catch and guide rod (and again when that one failed) and it's has been flawless thru the next 1300 rounds.
At 700 rounds, the original G10 MSH and sear spring were rock solid. When SIG finally came out with the Gen2 MSH/sear spring in Aug 2015, I installed a set just because I had waited so long for them to build it and wanted to see first hand what it would do. I just recently did a complete frame D&A and the MSH/sear spring looks completely normal. I really like the redesign.
I carry this one a lot and shoot it regularly. I have confidence in it but there are things I keep a close eye on…just to be sure.
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