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Old 04-05-2017, 05:25 AM   #31
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Hey all,
Made a few minor upgrades to my p320 and wanted to update this thread and my opinion. I installed the apex flat faced trigger, and a large grip module, which makes the trigger reach perfect for me. Now the pistol is everything i hoped it would be!! I am shooting it just as well if not better than anything else I have and I love it just as much as I hoped i would! I'm not sure if this is due more to the flat trigger or the larger grip, or both, but it definitely works for me now!
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I was going to suggest a new trigger and possibly grip module. Both of those helped me quite a bit.


I used my pistol rest first time out, and was putting 1 shot through the hole of the previous, and I knew this gun shot better than my others, but free hand I didn't shoot it as well.

A new trigger helped and adjusting my grip. Like your situation, the 320 is heavier than my other guns, and required a firmer grip, I think the heavier weight compounds any lack in grip technique...where the lighter gun moved but not as much nor as fast so groups stayed pretty tight, and not quite as tight with the 320. For me the flat trigger and a smaller grip so more of the grip was covered by my hand as well as a firmer grip did the trick.

Glad it worked out, I think you will like it more and more with each outing.
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:45 AM   #32
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My problem with the 320 wasn't accuracy but the lousy trigger, which stung with the first few shots. None of my other guns give trigger bite. Sent it back to SIG for replacement with the "adverse" trigger, which is supposed to ease the pain. We'll see if that works. If not, it's going on Armslist. I have six 9mm pistols and my favorite is the Canik TP9SA, which cost half as much as the SIG and shoots twice as good.


If the adverse trigger from sig doesn't work out you could try the apex, worth a try for $45...the factory trigger really stung my finger as well.


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The 320 series are not of the same fit, finish and durability as Sigs metal guns.


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The 320 series are not of the same fit, finish and durability as Sigs metal guns.

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I agree. I have a P320sc, P320rx full size, P229r and a P226 Legion. Although the P320's feel good in my hand and I shoot them well they feel cheaply made next to my steel Sigs.


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If the adverse trigger from sig doesn't work out you could try the apex, worth a try for $45...the factory trigger really stung my finger as well.
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I added the Apex 2.0 to my P320sc. I was shooting a little low and left but not anymore and the Apex flat face trigger feels better and dropped the pull weight down to 5# 3oz.


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My problem with the 320 wasn't accuracy but the lousy trigger, which stung with the first few shots. None of my other guns give trigger bite. Sent it back to SIG for replacement with the "adverse" trigger, which is supposed to ease the pain. We'll see if that works. If not, it's going on Armslist. I have six 9mm pistols and my favorite is the Canik TP9SA, which cost half as much as the SIG and shoots twice as good.
I have a Canik TP9SF and I shoot it well. Better trigger and balance than the P320 and I paid $320.00 NIB for the TP9SF. I prefer the grip ergonomics of the P320 though. Dollar for dollar the Canik is a much better buy.

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I don't know if this will help you too much, but my Sig p320 9mm has #6 front and #8 rear factory night sights. Initially, I was lining up the three dots horizontally and putting the front sight dot on the target and the shots would go a little low. I realized with this sight combination that if you line up the posts, the front dot is always slightly higher than the rear dots. Once I figured that out, everything came back up dead center at 10-15 yards. I do find it a little odd that the sights aren't calibrated such that all three dots in a line get poi = poa, but I can live with it.
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Disappointed with my new P320

I just picked up my first firearm, P320 Carry, and I'm having the same problem. I'm shooting low and to the left. I'm no way the best shooter but I've shot allot better in the past. I've trained with the M&P 40 Full size and did well. Shot 100 rounds through a Glock 19 and did alright. With my P320, I'm just way left and low? The pic is after I shot 2 17 round magazines, and I had shot 300 rounds the same day.


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I just picked up my first firearm, P320 Carry, and I'm having the same problem. I'm shooting low and to the left. I'm no way the best shooter but I've shot allot better in the past. I've trained with the M&P 40 Full size and did well. Shot 100 rounds through a Glock 19 and did alright. With my P320, I'm just way left and low? The pic is after I shot 2 17 round magazines, and I had shot 300 rounds the same day.


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Low and left usually indicates trigger pull issues and often times it's because the grip doesn't provide enough space between your index finger and the trigger, leading to inconsistent trigger finger placement. Seems like you might be jerking the trigger a bit too.

What size backstrap did you use on your G19? If it's a gen 3 G19, that's equivalent to the smallest additional backstrap on the gen 4, which is larger than the default medium grip on a P320.

For reference, I used to use a large backstrap and it gave me a perfect grip on the G17. I shoot the P320 as good as my other pistols, but I have to consciously adjust my grip/trigger finger placement as the medium grip is too small. Got a compact large ODG grip on the way.

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Low and left usually indicates trigger pull issues and often times it's because the grip doesn't provide enough space between your index finger and the trigger, leading to inconsistent trigger finger placement. Seems like you might be jerking the trigger a bit too.

What size backstrap did you use on your G19? If it's a gen 3 G19, that's equivalent to the smallest additional backstrap on the gen 4, which is larger than the default medium grip on a P320.

For reference, I used to use a large backstrap and it gave me a perfect grip on the G17. I shoot the P320 as good as my other pistols, but I have to consciously adjust my grip/trigger finger placement as the medium grip is too small. Got a compact large ODG grip on the way.


I'm not sure what size grip the G19 had. It was a rental a few months back when I was trying out different pistols. Think a smaller or larger grip might help?


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I just picked up my first firearm, P320 Carry, and I'm having the same problem. I'm shooting low and to the left. I'm no way the best shooter but I've shot allot better in the past. I've trained with the M&P 40 Full size and did well. Shot 100 rounds through a Glock 19 and did alright. With my P320, I'm just way left and low? The pic is after I shot 2 17 round magazines, and I had shot 300 rounds the same day.


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+1 to the low and left is almost always trigger control. Finding the right Grip module is definitely the best way to go, but not the only way to go. If you can get a better fit for you in a grip module do it.

But until then and for anyone who can't, trigger control only means being able to pull the trigger straight back without moving the gun off target. So if we can get a "better fit" great but if we can't we can also improve our skill. Like it or not when the shot breaks your muzzle is moving lower and to the left...all you need to do is stop doing that (Tongue in cheek I know it's easier said than done) .

I would suggest tightening up your grip, and applying a little pressure with your left hand (I am assuming you are right handed, because low and left is almost always right handed) so that the left hand is trying to push to the right and the right has to fight it to keep it straight...this helped me to keep it from going low and left. This will also help you tighten up your groups.


I like this video, which shows how it's not so much about technique, it's about holding the gun on target as the shot breaks no matter how bad the technique, and same would apply to the fit.

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I just picked up my first firearm, P320 Carry, and I'm having the same problem. I'm shooting low and to the left. I'm no way the best shooter but I've shot allot better in the past. I've trained with the M&P 40 Full size and did well. Shot 100 rounds through a Glock 19 and did alright. With my P320, I'm just way left and low? The pic is after I shot 2 17 round magazines, and I had shot 300 rounds the same day.


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+1 to the low and left is almost always trigger control. Finding the right Grip module is definitely the best way to go, but not the only way to go. If you can get a better fit for you in a grip module do it.

But until then and for anyone who can't, trigger control only means being able to pull the trigger straight back without moving the gun off target. So if we can get a "better fit" great but if we can't we can also improve our skill. Like it or not when the shot breaks your muzzle is moving lower and to the left...all you need to do is stop doing that (Tongue in cheek I know it's easier said than done) .

I would suggest tightening up your grip, and applying a little pressure with your left hand (I am assuming you are right handed, because low and left is almost always right handed) so that the left hand is trying to push to the right and the right has to fight it to keep it straight...this helped me to keep it from going low and left. This will also help you tighten up your groups.


I like this video, which shows how it's not so much about technique, it's about holding the gun on target as the shot breaks no matter how bad the technique, and same would apply to the fit.

I agree with Steve. I have pretty large hands so I've always had to adapt for that when switching between pistols. It just takes a little extra concentration and a bit of experimentatiom to make sure your finger is indeed moving straight back. I'd recommend you do some dry firing at home to practice. Helped me a ton when I first started shooting, and I still do so about once a week.

Make sure your pistol is unloaded and the chamber clear. Then make sure again because NDs are no fun. I have some A-zoom snap caps on hand for this. I load a couple of those into a magazine (again, making sure it's just the snap caps and not live ammunition) and then "fire" away. If your trigger pull is alright, you should be able to put a quarter on the front sight and not have it fall off when you pull the trigger. If not, play around with your grip and finger placement.
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+1 to the low and left is almost always trigger control. Finding the right Grip module is definitely the best way to go, but not the only way to go. If you can get a better fit for you in a grip module do it.

But until then and for anyone who can't, trigger control only means being able to pull the trigger straight back without moving the gun off target. So if we can get a "better fit" great but if we can't we can also improve our skill. Like it or not when the shot breaks your muzzle is moving lower and to the left...all you need to do is stop doing that (Tongue in cheek I know it's easier said than done) .

I would suggest tightening up your grip, and applying a little pressure with your left hand (I am assuming you are right handed, because low and left is almost always right handed) so that the left hand is trying to push to the right and the right has to fight it to keep it straight...this helped me to keep it from going low and left. This will also help you tighten up your groups.


I like this video, which shows how it's not so much about technique, it's about holding the gun on target as the shot breaks no matter how bad the technique, and same would apply to the fit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpCiDFGjI50

Came here to post a similar video of the specific drill that will cure low/left shooting.



Whenever I hear someone complain about a gun shooting low and to the left, I have them do this. More often than not, they'll notice a fair amount of Parkinson's in the end of their muzzle on that second 'dry' shot.
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???????? The 320's have been put thru some pretty rigorous testing, and done very well- I am not sure what you mean by durability.
So how easy is it to replace a frame on the metal and ALUMINUM pistols? I would have to say not as easy ,or as cheap as, replacing the grip module of a P320. Take a look at link below-

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_14/17...n-Working.html
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If you are getting trigger bite, your finger is way to high on the trigger . Which also makes the trigger feel harder. Lower with just the tip of your finger,makes it feel easy.You know more leaverage.
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Could be grip size. I can't shoot P320's well until I put a Large grip on them.
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I've had sort of the exact opposite reaction. When buying my first gun, tried all the usual suspects - Glock, Sig, HK, Beretta, SA. Decided the XD was the best fit for me and ended up with the 3.8" 9mm which I love and shoot pretty well.

However, I got the full size P320 and I shoot BETTER. Bigger sights, less pull on the trigger, and fun to shoot. I should say I've only went out once with it for 100 rounds, but was working on pressing the trigger and my grip.

The triggers between the two are VERY different and I'd say that's most likely the culprit. Back to basics until you figure out the break.
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