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Old 04-06-2017, 07:07 PM   #31
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...so for those of you looking to compare the Apex 2.0 with the GG, this translates to an extra 1#3.8oz lighter pull for the GG... From what I have seen and heard, about 8oz of that reduction is due to the GG spring and the rest is due to the trigger design itself.
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:08 AM   #32
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I also plan to try the GG spring with the non-GG triggers to see what effect that might have.
Did you get a chance to put the GG spring with the apex 2.0? I'm curious how much that spring affects the trigger pull weight.
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Did you get a chance to put the GG spring with the apex 2.0? I'm curious how much that spring affects the trigger pull weight.
Not yet. I will try to get to it tonight or tomorrow.
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:22 PM   #34
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Did you get a chance to put the GG spring with the apex 2.0? I'm curious how much that spring affects the trigger pull weight.
OK, here's the goods...
Tested Apex 2.0/stock spring against Apex 2.0/GG spring. Average of 8 Lyman pulls on the same FCU, Grip, & Slide assembly.

Apex 2.0/stock spring 5#12.2oz
Apex 2.0/GG spring 5#3.1oz

That's a reduction of 9.1oz with the GG spring. Pretty consistent with the reduction of the GG spring vs standard on the GG trigger- about 8 to 9 oz. Haven't tried the GG spring with the stock trigger but I'll bet it's worth about the same reduction in pull. Maybe this info will help y'all that carry to fine tune your trigger / spring combo to suit you best. Next mission- on Monday, I'm gonna try to find out if GG sells the spring as a separate item. I figure they gotta at least think about selling them as replacements for their own trigger kits, right? Will keep you posted.
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:35 PM   #35
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BTW, during all this playing around with triggers, springs, and different FCUs, I've managed to make a few observations about the dreaded side to side play that seems to be the other big topic on these triggers lately. When you put the pull and the freeplay together and average it all out, I currently favor GG combo, Apex 1.0 w GG spring, Apex 1.0 w standard spring, stock trigger, then Apex 2.0. Personally, I think the latter is a bad design aimed at trying to catch up w GG. No offense, just my opinion. More details to come...
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Thank you for all of this great info. Much appreciated!
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Hi from Youngstown. The Apex trigger is about half the price of the GG trigger. Just pulling the trigger can you tell much of a difference between the two? I've heard the Apex triggers are kind of slick. Wondering if the GG trigger is worth the price difference.
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Hi from Youngstown. The Apex trigger is about half the price of the GG trigger. Just pulling the trigger can you tell much of a difference between the two? I've heard the Apex triggers are kind of slick. Wondering if the GG trigger is worth the price difference.
That's an excellent question and a tough one to answer in just words or even pictures. Somewhat splitting hairs and obviously a very personal thing for each shooter. Too bad there is no way to "try before you buy." I found the standard Sig curved trigger about 75% to my liking. Great trigger compared with many other guns, but it gave me a bit of a bite and that's the main reason I tried an Apex 1.0. The flat design took away the bite and my satisfaction level went up to about 90%. Trying the GG and spring, that took me up to near 100%. Felt smoother, and the decreased pull made it rival the feel of the Legion. The GG is a bit narrower and longer and the hook at the end is a bit smaller than the Apex. And yes, the Apex is a bit slicker. It also has a bit more side to side play. But these differences are very subtle. So I paid about 100% more to gain 10% extra. A personal decision. But if I had never done that, I would still be very happy with the Apex 1.0. As far as the Apex 2.0 goes, I just don't know. I don't feel like I really gain anything with it compared with 1.0. And if what I really want is the lighter/smoother pull, I would definitely favor the GG. The 2.0 also has even more side to side and I found it more finicky to install than the other three. If you could find someone wanting to unload a 1.0 at a cut rate that might be a good choice for economy. Hope this helps some.
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Thank you for all of this great info. Much appreciated!
Glad to do it and I hope it helps you P320 fans. Had fun with it.
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Just installed the Apex 2.0 since it was the same price. Didn't have much trouble with the install but it does seem to have more side to side movement. Like the flat trigger. Seems a little lighter on the trigger pull
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Ok so I reread this thread and feel I must have missed something.

So what is the trigger pull weight with the GG and factory Sig spring (not GG spring)?
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Ok so I reread this thread and feel I must have missed something.

So what is the trigger pull weight with the GG trigger and factory Sig spring (not GG spring)?
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I didn't try that combination, only the GG spring with APEX 2.0 trigger (because it was requested) and got about a 1/2 lb reduction pretty consistently. In the GG video he claims a 1/2 lb reduction due to the spring alone and discusses the virtues of using his trigger with a stock spring to get an intermediate pull for carry When I get a chance, I will try the stock spring with the PELT trigger.
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In looking back at the numbers, I got an average pull weight for GG trigger with GG spring with 6 pulls each on 3 FCUs of 4lb 5oz. Based on what I've seen myself and also heard, the combo of GG trigger and stock Sig spring would give you an 8 to 9oz heavier pull.- about 4lb 13-14 oz. You might be on to something here because I (and others I think) have noticed a mushier reset with the GG spring. Maybe the stock spring would restore more of a crisp reset and retain a good pull reduction with the GG trigger?
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Micheal64 The pull weight me vary slightly depending on how well broke in your stock trigger is before the change but figure a reduction down to around mid 4lb pull range plus or minus a few oz . I did some parts polishing and went from a 6lb 8oz trigger to a 4lb 4oz + or - 2 oz .
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