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Old 05-11-2017, 04:05 PM   #1
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Sig Being Sued By Steyr Over 320?

Has anyone heard about this?

Sig Sauer Is Getting Sued For Patent Infringement Over Pistol The Army Just Bought
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Old 05-11-2017, 04:12 PM   #2
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Probably a day (decade) late and a dollar short
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Old 05-11-2017, 04:15 PM   #3
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Lol, quote is too vague. I know just a little about patents and that's not enough specifics. Good grief that's like saying ford owns the patient to remove the motor from a 4 wheel vehicle with doors and a windshield. Lol.
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My largest equity holding the last 17 years is a patent invention company (3G/45G/5G/IOT) and one thing I've learned is that the patent lawyers are the only sure winner...a lucrative business. Unfortunately there is no publicly traded patent law firm to invest in.
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They're just butt hurt because their pistol is ugly as heck
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They're just butt hurt because their pistol is ugly as heck
I concur, exceptionally ugly.
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Lmmfao. I had a very strange day, this was much needed
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They're just butt hurt because their pistol is ugly as heck
You might be onto something, maybe that's why glock is protesting Sig's win with the Army contract?

I kid I kid
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Truth be told the 320 is a much more attractive pistol than a Glock and most definitely a Styer. Honestly probably one of the most aesthetically pleasing striker fired guns I've seen.
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You can't blame them for filing but I'm certain they are farting in the wind.
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They're just butt hurt because their pistol is ugly as heck
I'll have to disagree with you. I have a full size P320 and a Steyr L9-A1. They are both ugly, but the Steyr is more cool looking. I have about 2K rounds through my Steyr and it is an excellent firearm. The slide in the frame (like a CZ75) makes for a lower bore axis. This with how high your grip is makes for what seems like very low recoil. I really like the triangle sights, too. And the trigger is much better than the P320 factory one, and still better than my P320 with Apex 2.0 trigger. I would prefer the Steyr over my P320, but I just cannot get used to the grip angle of the Steyr. If you are ok with the grip angle of Glocks, then you should really check out the Steyr A1 model of handguns.


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Also, if you didn't read all of the article, you may have missed some other good info:

In September 2015, Steyr filled a similar complaint against Beretta USA, claiming that the .380 ACP Pico pistol, which uses a “serialized modular chassis,” wilfully and deliberately infringes on the manufacturer’s intellectual property without a license. This case is still ongoing and presumably now also encompasses Beretta’s own MHS entrant, the APX, which also uses a modular frame system similar to the P320/M17’s.
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Not a conspiracy theorist but considering the threshold of proof required in intellectual property cases, and in narrow expansion technology such as firearms in general, I'd have to guess that such a lawsuit is going to hemorrhage money along it's short torturous path to NO. Possible one of the big non awardees (guess who?) is proxy suing and throwing suitcases of unmarked bills out of the back of a van to Steyr? Who knows?

I don't recall Steyr being on the offeror list (maybe a manufacturing capacity issue but who knows) so why now? How long has the 320 been in production? Oh yeah, three years. Weird timing? Yes.

This one has plenty of intrigue with Steyr in Alabama and Sig in NH but with Trump as CinC, Alabama is a locked in red state and NH is a toss up so why would you put people out of work in NH for an Alabama that is in the bag already for 2018 AND 2020. Sessions being from Alabama just doesn't have that kind of weight to throw around to politic on this one nor would he want to. Expect a resounding get lost from DoD, and the GAO will rule for the awardee and it will be a quick decision. This contract is a done deal. The contracting process is SNAFU but it's the one the Feds created. Win some. Lose some.
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This one has plenty of intrigue with Steyr in Alabama and Sig in NH but with Trump as CinC, Alabama is a locked in red state and NH is a toss up so why would you put people out of work in NH for an Alabama that is in the bag already for 2018 AND 2020. Sessions being from Alabama just doesn't have that kind of weight to throw around to politic on this one nor would he want to. Expect a resounding get lost from DoD, and the GAO will rule for the awardee and it will be a quick decision. This contract is a done deal. The contracting process is SNAFU but it's the one the Feds created. Win some. Lose some.


Considering Trump knows jack and **** about military weaponry and is publicly advocating for aircraft carriers to keep using steam catapults instead of "the digital", I highly doubt he's going to have any (useful) say in the awards process.


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Considering Trump knows jack and **** about military weaponry and is publicly advocating for aircraft carriers to keep using steam catapults instead of "the digital", I highly doubt he's going to have any (useful) say in the awards process.


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