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Old 06-12-2016, 03:35 PM   #1
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P320 Manual Safety model ETA?

Hi all,

I love the Sig P320. Actually I am thinking about getting the P320sc or P320c as my carry gun. However, I do want a manual safety, and as I understand they are releasing a P320c with the safety this year. Anyone know when it is supposed to be coming?

Also, is the safety model going to be available for the P320sc? That is the gun I really want. But I could settle for the C if that's my only option.

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Old 06-12-2016, 04:35 PM   #2
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This has been addressed in other threads, but when I got my P320C a little more than a year ago, I was told by my dealer that the trigger-safety and manual-safety options were really only for a law enforcement or military order in bulk. So normally it couldn't even be ordered as an option for a regular civilian.

But if the P320 wins the new MHS contract as our new military pistol (a variant most likely with a manual safety), maybe the option could make its way into the civilian market as well.
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This has been addressed in other threads, but when I got my P320C a little more than a year ago, I was told by my dealer that the trigger-safety and manual-safety options were really only for a law enforcement or military order in bulk. So normally it couldn't even be ordered as an option for a regular civilian.

But if the P320 wins the new MHS contract as our new military pistol (a variant most likely with a manual safety), maybe the option could make its way into the civilian market as well.
That's unfortunate. Thanks for the quick reply. I really want this gun but I am not entirely comfortable carrying it with that trigger and no safety. I am new to CCW so this is probably an irrational fear but it is what it is.
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That's unfortunate. Thanks for the quick reply. I really want this gun but I am not entirely comfortable carrying it with that trigger and no safety. I am new to CCW so this is probably an irrational fear but it is what it is.
It's no more dangerous than a Glock trigger to be honest. This is my first gun ever, and I love having no safeties for one reason. It makes me respect the weapon so much more and be so much more careful with it knowing it's always live. I walk around with it in my house at night with one in the chamber and 15 in the mag. My finger goes no where near the trigger ever. It's a rule that has ingrained itself in my consciousness. And I do not fear having an accidental discharge because I can handle the weapon with confidence. Whatever makes you happy sir, but it's up to the end user to be safe. That shouldn't be a job for the firearm itself. Just my input as a brand new shooter.
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That's unfortunate. Thanks for the quick reply. I really want this gun but I am not entirely comfortable carrying it with that trigger and no safety. I am new to CCW so this is probably an irrational fear but it is what it is.
The P320 has the safeties wanted/needed for concealed carry.

1 A striker safety which requires the trigger be pulled to fire and protects from Accidental Discharge if dropped.

2 A disconnect safety so the weapon will not discharge unless the slide is in battery. Slide Locked fully forward.

3 Three point take down safety for field stripping including not having to pull the trigger.

Thus the weapon can be drawn ready for fire by just pulling the trigger. This is actually advantageous. The only down side is if the trigger is pulled back when holstering the weapon. This can easily be avoided by covering the trigger guard by hand/fingers.

Revolvers have the same types of safeties and have been carried safely in holsters for ages. Revolvers and double action only pistols have the long trigger pull required for the weapon to discharge, which is the reason they come without a trigger safety. An auto pistol in single action (cocked and locked) requires very little trigger pull to fire and always come with a trigger safety.

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The p320 can be fired out of battery. I think a 1/4" and it will still fire. Sorry not out of battery it has stand off capability if you press hard for a contact shot.


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The p320 can be fired out of battery. I think a 1/4" and it will still fire. Sorry not out of battery it has stand off capability if you press hard for a contact shot.

I read this in Massad Ayoob's review of the P320 but still have to understand it.???

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The first thing I discovered about the P320 was that it has a “stand-off capability,” a good thing. This means that if the muzzle is pressed hard against a firmly resisting surface (like the chest of a murderer about to kill you) it will fire, instead of going out of battery and failing to discharge, as most autopistols will. It amazes me that more people don’t test for this, and amazes me still more that manufacturers who put this potentially life-saving feature into their autopistols don’t advertise it. - See more at: Massad Ayoob Tests the Sig Sauer P320 9mm

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That's unfortunate. Thanks for the quick reply. I really want this gun but I am not entirely comfortable carrying it with that trigger and no safety. I am new to CCW so this is probably an irrational fear but it is what it is.
Irrational no, overly cautious yes. When I first started carrying I was the same way. Infact, so much so I refused to put one in the chamber. It wasn't until I watched a surveillance video of a CCW holder under stress who had issues racking the slide before I changed my tune. Unfortunately, he lost his life that day, but I learned a valuable lesson. If I'm in a **** scenario the only thing I want to focus on is putting my gun on target and pulling the trigger.

After you carry for a bit you will begin to get more comfortable, it will just take time. Just remember, the time it takes you to rack a slide and/or take the safety off could be you last.
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Irrational no, overly cautious yes. When I first started carrying I was the same way. Infact, so much so I refused to put one in the chamber. It wasn't until I watched a surveillance video of a CCW holder under stress who had issues racking the slide before I changed my tune. Unfortunately, he lost his life that day, but I learned a valuable lesson. If I'm in a **** scenario the only thing I want to focus on is putting my gun on target and pulling the trigger.



After you carry for a bit you will begin to get more comfortable, it will just take time. Just remember, the time it takes you to rack a slide and/or take the safety off could be you last.

Before the p320 came out I carried and sometimes still do my glock 26. I've always carried chamber loaded and ready to rock and roll. Remember most LE carry there service guns loaded ready to go.



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Thanks for the replies. I have concluded that the P320 is indeed my favorite striker fired handgun. I do really want an external safety, though. I'll have to wait and see what Sig comes out with this year. I will give them a call tomorrow and see if they can give me any more info about this.
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I talked to SIG reps this spring and they indicated no specific time frame and indicated it probably would depend on when they made some for a commercial contract.

I tried the P320C and loved shooting it but alas the lack of almost any take up in the trigger rules it out for me for SD purposes.
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I talked to SIG reps this spring and they indicated no specific time frame and indicated it probably would depend on when they made some for a commercial contract.

I tried the P320C and loved shooting it but alas the lack of almost any take up in the trigger rules it out for me for SD purposes.
I'm probably going to end up carrying a PCR or Rami BD, but out of all the Polymer striker fired guns I've tried the P320 is my favorite by far.
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