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Old 01-08-2017, 07:57 AM   #16
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All LPA Sights have twin set screws and a very loose dovetail that the sight literally falls out of. The LPA Sights rely ENTIRELY on the set screws holding them in. I believe that the SIG sight is Kensight. A similar cut.

Freaking Para-USA used LPA Sights for their adjustable sights.
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:03 AM   #17
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I believe this is a Super Match, instead of an Elite, from OPs pictures with shows an apparent right side safety lever, which would make it an SAO, which would have from the factory an adjustable sight. I'm not certain, but I thought that their adjustable sights were LPAs, but I could be wrong. They appear to be a copy of a low mount Bomar, and so many companies manufacture their version.

A call to Sig CS, would probably be best, since it was purchased new, and under warranty.
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Thanks again; I don't see anything that says Super Match, but it's definitely a SAO. Here's a few more pics for information only, but I'll call Sig tomorrow.
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stevez, you showed 1 side profile, but not the other, is there a set screw from the side of the dovetail? Your 2nd shot of the slides dovetail showed where the set screw bore down on the slide, evidently not enough tension to keep it in place.
I would call Sig, and see what they say. If it were mine, I would sink a small depression into the slide where that set screw bore onto the slide. Then tighten it down as normal, and apply threadlocker, to keep it from backing off. If it does have another set screw, to tighten against that set screw, I would use threadlocker on it, to prevent it from backing off. Doing that (creating the depression), would no doubt void the warranty, so let Sig have a crack at fixing it first. Should their attempt fail, you would have an alternative route.
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stevez, you showed 1 side profile, but not the other, is there a set screw from the side of the dovetail? Your 2nd shot of the slides dovetail showed where the set screw bore down on the slide, evidently not enough tension to keep it in place.
I would call Sig, and see what they say. If it were mine, I would sink a small depression into the slide where that set screw bore onto the slide. Then tighten it down as normal, and apply threadlocker, to keep it from backing off. If it does have another set screw, to tighten against that set screw, I would use threadlocker on it, to prevent it from backing off. Doing that (creating the depression), would no doubt void the warranty, so let Sig have a crack at fixing it first. Should their attempt fail, you would have an alternative route.
Thanks Willard; appreciate all the help. Yes, there is an identical set screw on the other side.
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Great, thanks for the response, good luck with Sig! To get at the one set screw, that tightens into the dovetail, you would need to raise the elevation screw, until it unthreaded from the base, then pivot it out of the way to get at the "vertical" set screw.
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It is a 10mm. It is an SSE. That's how the 10s came. It's factory.
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All LPA Sights have twin set screws and a very loose dovetail that the sight literally falls out of. The LPA Sights rely ENTIRELY on the set screws holding them in. I believe that the SIG sight is Kensight. A similar cut.

Freaking Para-USA used LPA Sights for their adjustable sights.
If that's the case, then kensight might be worse. One set screw.
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Thanks again; I don't see anything that says Super Match, but it's definitely a SAO. Here's a few more pics for information only, but I'll call Sig tomorrow.
here's my mse & label:

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IMHO, considering it is a 10mm, with the associated heavier recoil, I would almost think it would be advisable for Sig to include a second recess in the dovetail, next to the one for the elevation screw, to accommodate a longer set screw, to prevent recoil vibrations from walking the rear sight out of its dovetail.
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The Super Match is a 5" P220 made by SIG's custom shop that has a black alloy frame.

https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p220-...full-size.html

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If that's the case, then kensight might be worse. One set screw.
I took a gun that I have under Test & Evaluation that has an LPA Sight out for its second workout. I had not put LocTite on the grips yet. I must have reinstalled that damned sight 6 times before I called it a day. I have the set screws LocTite'd now but I haven't taken it to the range. IT is a 10mm.
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Thanks again; I don't see anything that says Super Match, but it's definitely a SAO. Here's a few more pics for information only, but I'll call Sig tomorrow.
You have the P220 10mm Stainless Elite SAO.

It was one of the Lipsey's distributor exclusives.

https://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.a...I220R510SSESAO
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adjustable Rear sight loose

I am sending my 10 mm 220 SAO gun back for the second time for a loose rear sight ready to fall out. First conversation with CS was all about just Loctite the set screw and tighten and it will be fine.Sent it in ...very loose this time you can see daylight on the front and rear of the dove tail.

Conversation today went like this: My rear sight on my adj sight 220 10mm is loose again and ready to fall off. I can see light on both sides of the dovetail.

OK will send a return shipping label... How about we replace the slide with a fixed sight slide?

I bought this gun to have the adj rear sight.

Ok send it in we will fix it.

Sounds like there may be an issue with the fit of the rear adj sight fit.

No just thought you might like that repair.

I already have the fixed sight version.

Tom

Ok send it in
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I am sending my 10 mm 220 SAO gun back for the second time for a loose rear sight ready to fall out. First conversation with CS was all about just Loctite the set screw and tighten and it will be fine.Sent it in ...very loose this time you can see daylight on the front and rear of the dove tail.

Conversation today went like this: My rear sight on my adj sight 220 10mm is loose again and ready to fall off. I can see light on both sides of the dovetail.

OK will send a return shipping label... How about we replace the slide with a fixed sight slide?

I bought this gun to have the adj rear sight.

Ok send it in we will fix it.

Sounds like there may be an issue with the fit of the rear adj sight fit.

No just thought you might like that repair.

I already have the fixed sight version.

Tom

Ok send it in
Damn; sounds like a problem. How long did it take them to fix and send it back the first time?

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