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Old 01-11-2017, 06:28 PM   #1
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Range day with my 229 stainless

I took an hour today and headed to the range. I shot 150 rounds out my p229 stainless elite today (total of 300 since I purchased it) it performed flawlessly. I had no problems at all. I was shooting it relatively well. I wanted to see what you guys would recommend to tighten up my groups. I was using umc 180 grain ammo. The first 3 pics are at 8.5 yards. The last 2 were at about 16 yards. I included the pistol as a reference for size of the groups.

I try to shoot at numbers to maximize use of each target. In the first picture I was aiming at the x. I was aiming at the 7 in the 2nd and 3rd picture. All 3 were at 8.5 yards. I aimed at the x and head on the last 2 at 16 yards.

I'm sure the firearm is much more accurate than I am, But wouldn't mind any advice to be more accurate and precise!
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Congratulations. That's a beautiful pistol.

I'm not one that should give out advice on accurate shooting. I'm still learning.
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You are doing good.
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Do you have other SIGs with the reduced reach (thin) trigger?

I've tried it on several SIGs and it plays hell with my groups. It seems to put my finger in an uncomfortable position at the point that the trigger breaks, too far back if you will. I can control the trigger press better with my finger reaching out further. I've always switched them to standard triggers.
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Do you have other SIGs with the reduced reach (thin) trigger?

I've tried it on several SIGs and it plays hell with my groups. It seems to put my finger in an uncomfortable position at the point that the trigger breaks, too far back if you will. I can control the trigger press better with my finger reaching out further. I've always switched them to standard triggers.
Yes, I have 2 other p220's that appear to have the same trigger. I was considering switching them to a gray guns trigger. Do you know if that voids the warranty?
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I think you'd do best to improve by having someone experienced or a trainer actually watch you shoot. That way they'd pick up on what could be very subtle things....but you are not shooting badly. Maybe even have someone film you with your smartphone and analyze later. I recently got a P229 Elite as well in .40 and love the way it shoots. I put a Gray trigger on mine:

P229 Elite Stainless - The "Rerun" of Sigs

This is a sort of general tip, but a lot of times with heavier guns I don't grip it quite as hard as lighter guns, letting the gun's weight contribute to the stabilizing, and it helps reduce little trigger jerks or flinches and tightens up groups since you're not as tensed up while pulling the trigger. Gun still doesn't kick/flip badly and cycles fine because of the weight and ergonomics.

Also may want to consider smaller grips to fit your hand better, as the stock wood ones are very thick. Depending on your hand size, it also might help with control and ergonomics.
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After reviewing your post, a couple of things come to mind:

#1.. I would want to be shot anywhere where you hit.

and #2.. what I've found helpful getting better shots on target, move the target closer.
Actually, practice has helped me.
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Nice shooting!!! CONGRATS!!!
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I think you'd do best to improve by having someone experienced or a trainer actually watch you shoot. That way they'd pick up on what could be very subtle things....but you are not shooting badly. Maybe even have someone film you with your smartphone and analyze later. I recently got a P229 Elite as well in .40 and love the way it shoots. I put a Gray trigger on mine:

P229 Elite Stainless - The "Rerun" of Sigs

This is a sort of general tip, but a lot of times with heavier guns I don't grip it quite as hard as lighter guns, letting the gun's weight contribute to the stabilizing, and it helps reduce little trigger jerks or flinches and tightens up groups since you're not as tensed up while pulling the trigger. Gun still doesn't kick/flip badly and cycles fine because of the weight and ergonomics.

Also may want to consider smaller grips to fit your hand better, as the stock wood ones are very thick. Depending on your hand size, it also might help with control and ergonomics.
Thanks for the tips! I'll see if I can have someone record me next time I get a chance to go. I have large hands, especially my palms. So it actually fits nicely.
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After reviewing your post, a couple of things come to mind:

#1.. I would want to be shot anywhere where you hit.

and #2.. what I've found helpful getting better shots on target, move the target closer.
Actually, practice has helped me.
Lol you would??! I'm not sure if you read the whole post. I aim at individual numbers to maximize the use of each target.
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That's awesome that you can keep those grips, because they look awesome. Thankfully my hands are big enough to find them perfect on my P220 Stainless Elite, but they are too much for me on the P229.
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Lol you would??! I'm not sure if you read the whole post. I aim at individual numbers to maximize the use of each target.
Oops.. that was a not.. or supposed to be.
Shooting looks good to me..
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This may be of some help in figuring out what your doing the groupings to the left of center indicate a trigger finger placement issue.

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That's pretty good shooting as is. They look like my groupings. I reduced the mainspring weight and switched to a standard trigger. I also need to work on my trigger control as well.
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