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Old 04-16-2017, 03:17 AM   #16
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Dave, did you ever check to see if the extractor has the tension to hold a loaded round against the breachface?

Another member had extraction issues with his "Tacops", ended up solving issue with honing the chamber, as I guess it was a little roughly finished, allowing the expanding brass to grab onto the chamber walls, and fighting extraction.

A look at some of your fired brass, may provide some clues. If the rims of the fired brass appear to be ripped away by the extractor, that could indicate the brass didn't want to release its grip on the chamber walls, or inferior cartridge brass.

Post some pictures of your fired brass, if you still have it. Focus on any lengthwise marks.
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Old 04-16-2017, 03:45 AM   #17
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Thanks Willard. I'll save the brass from my next range visit and post an inspection report.

As far as checking the extractor tension, do I do that by field stripping and then sliding a round under the extractor?


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Just remove the barrel, and slide a round under the extractor. You don't need to shake the slide, but rotate it to see if the extractor keeps it held against the breechface.

Your earlier comment about the underside of the slide, having any effect, made me question whether you "cleaned the slide", prior to taking pictures. If you were having ejection issues rather than extraction issues, I would wonder about adequate lubrication. Not that it should have effect on your current problem, I would suggest using grease on the frame / slide rails, rather than oil.

Also, is your slide nickel plated, or stainless?

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Old 04-16-2017, 09:34 AM   #19
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FTExtract with my P290

Tested the extractor tension and it absolutely does hold a round against the breechface, rotated and shook (pic below)

I did clean the gun before the first set of pictures and generally use a liberal application of Hoppes oil.

The slide is stainless steel.

Also, with a couple of the failures the empty case was stuck in the chamber. I had to tap the gun in the table to get it to come loose. Maybe a little polishing of the feed ramp and chamber will help?




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excellent photography.
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Dave, care needs to be taken, to polish only, and not enlarge. I'll see if I can find the post, where the member with the "Tacops", did a step by step tutorial.
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Dave here is the tutorial:

TUTORIAL: Barrel Honing
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Thanks Willard. No way I'm going to do that


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Dave, I can understand your position. Continued breaking in may help smooth things up a bit.
If this is for defensive use, the use of nickel plated cases for the "serious ammunition" may lessen the "sticking cases".
Document what has happened thus far, in case you get to the point, you call Sig, to see if they can correct it.
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Malfunctions were worse at my last range trip. I actually shot the gun fairly well but had two extraction failures out of 50 rounds.

I called Sig and its on its way back for repair.


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Old 05-13-2017, 05:43 AM   #26
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FTExtract with my P290

Came back from Sig yesterday. 15 days door to door, includes weekends and shipping time.

They replaced the extractor, extractor spring and recoil springs. Tested with fmj and jhp (doesn't say how many rounds were fired). I can definitely tell the recoil springs are new.

Hope to test at the range this week.


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Hopefully they made it right. Good luck.
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Came back from Sig yesterday. 15 days door to door, includes weekends and shipping time.

They replaced the extractor, extractor spring and recoil springs. Tested with fmj and jhp (doesn't say how many rounds were fired). I can definitely tell the recoil springs are new.

Hope to test at the range this week.


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Range test was not perfect.

First I put 50 rounds of fmj (PPU and Speer) through one of my 6 round mags (loaded to 5 rounds, 10x). This 50 was perfect.

Switched to another 6 round mag. First mag loaded to 5 failed to extract on the last round. Second mag loaded to 5 had a feed failure on the second round. Maybe a limp wrist.

Switched back to the first mag. 25 rounds (10 fmj and 15 HST jhp) were perfect.

Switched to the 8 round mag and fired 5 rounds perfectly.

I'll go back to the range next week and do some more testing. Not sure what to make of this.


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Another update:

I sent it back to Sig again. They replaced the extractor and spring again and test fired 125 rounds (100 fmj and 25 jhp). Even though the work order doesn't say so, they clearly polished the feed ramp and the chamber.

I've put 215 rounds through it since it returned with no issues. It appears to be fixed.

Turnaround was less than 2 weeks and they gave me two free mags for my trouble. Thank you Sig for making this right.


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Good to hear that. I have had no issues with mine.
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