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Old 01-26-2017, 03:07 AM   #1
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FTExtract with my P290

I have about 600 rounds through my P290RS. Last night at the range I had what I believe was a failure to extract (empty cartridge still in chamber, next round jammed on way into the chamber).

Ammunition was Magtech 115 grain fmj. After clearing the jam I fired 25 rounds (combination of Speer 124g fmj and Magtech) with no issues.

While cleaning he gun I noticed some scuff marks where the black finish has worn off the extractor (see pic below). I'm guessing that is normal but am interested in thoughts/opinions.





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Old 01-26-2017, 06:03 AM   #2
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Dave, the cartridge "should" slide up underneath the extractor, as it's being stripped from the magazine. The extractor spring should have enough tension to hold an empty case against the breech, until the ejector kicks the case out, another reason for the extractor spring, to allow the extractor return to it's closed position.
You may need to remove the extractor, and spring, to flush out any firing residue, that is preventing the extractors smooth function. You may try flushing it out first with some spray cleaner/degreaser, and apply a dab of oil on the extractors pivot, and insure it pivots freely.
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Thanks. I'll try flushing it out with some non-chlorinated brake cleaner. I'm a bit wary of taking it apart.


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Old 01-26-2017, 06:50 AM   #4
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I have about 600 rounds through my P290RS. Last night at the range I had what I believe was a failure to extract (empty cartridge still in chamber, next round jammed on way into the chamber).

Ammunition was Magtech 115 grain fmj. After clearing the jam I fired 25 rounds (combination of Speer 124g fmj and Magtech) with no issues.

While cleaning he gun I noticed some scuff marks where the black finish has worn off the extractor (see pic below). I'm guessing that is normal but am interested in thoughts/opinions.







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very nice photography....of course you have a beautiful subject to work with.
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:46 AM   #5
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This happens. That is why police practice clearing guns that have jams. I have seen this happen to people in competition (jams of different types)even with very high end guns. Don"t understand why people who have been around semi autos for a long time feel this is a problem. Now if it happens all the time with a particular gun then it is a problems and needs to be addressed.
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Old 01-26-2017, 10:09 AM   #6
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Jerrysea - point taken. Thanks for the perspective.


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Ammunition was Magtech 115 grain fmj.

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This is probably your problem. I've had the same failure to extract issue with my p229 with the same cheap magtech range ammo and never with any other type.

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Old 02-10-2017, 09:08 AM   #8
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Gave it a good cleaning and put 50 flawless rounds through it this week (Magtech and Speer).


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I've had 3 more extraction failures in the last 250 rounds. I noticed some wear on the slide behind the extractor. Could this be a factor?





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I see what you mean, but I'm struggling to think how that might contribute to a FTE. I'm thinking something like a weak, faulty, or gunked-up extractor or a weak spring is more likely. Or just an ammo-related thing.

I've never had a FTE with my 290s in either 380 or 9mm. I hope that you can sort it out. Or just stop using Magtech ammo in that gun...
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Thanks OhioBob. I should have mentioned that the last 3 failures were with Speer Lawman 124 grain fmj.


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It really looks to me like the claw on your extractor is damaged. The edge that grasps the case looks to be concave rather than straight, indicating it may be chipped. The scrapes you show on the extractor face in your first picture could possibly be caused by the slide slamming home with a cartridge already in the chamber, have you allowed that to happen? That could very easily cause the damage I believe I might be seeing. Another picture of the extractor claw from a different angle may be helpful.
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FTExtract with my P290

I will take some additional pictures as soon as I can. Which pic makes you think the claw is concave?

I have never, to my knowledge, allowed the slide to return to battery with a round already in the chamber.


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Here are a few more pics. The extractor is curved at the bottom but I don't see anything that looks like damage.






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Any thoughts on the extractor pics?


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