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Old 10-20-2013, 06:23 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Sig PM400

I went and did it, grabbed a Sig PM 400 this morning, can't decide if it is a pistol or a rifle myself but the paperwork said pistol. Got it with a couple P-Mags and 100 rounds for just over $1200 with tax, it better be reliable! It is cleaned, oiled, and greased now, ready for a test run.
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Target was 30+1, 25 yards, at a brisk pace.

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So far so good. 70 rounds of Federal XM193 Ball and no glitches. It drops the brass all in a neat pile about 2 foot across.
I hadn't seen this model advertised yet on the Sig website but I liked the idea of having a gas gun with standard AR-15 parts and a lifetime warranty. It must be a fairly new offering, my serial number has a bunch of 0's before a 12.
The "brace" holds steady at whatever position I place it in. I did find it very awkward when strapped to my arm, hard to get a decent sight picture. It worked very well in the "Don't do this" position , no problem getting a good cheek weld. I haven't put a sling on it yet but it has lots of optional attachment locations, any suggestions on the sling and hardware?
There is a bayonet lug but that would seem to defeat the purpose of the short barrel. It has an ambidextrous magazine release that works well. The trigger was a bit heavy but with a real crisp break.
I still have that Armalite SPR Mod 1 on order but I've been told it is an 18 month wait. In the mean time this will be a fun little gun! To bad I can't put a bipod or fore grip on it, stupid government rules!

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Old 10-20-2013, 06:30 PM   #2
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Thats an interesting little setup!

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Old 10-20-2013, 09:13 PM   #3
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I think it's slick!

Wonder if you could attach that "brace" to a longer buffer tube?

"Gee Mr. Agent, I have long arms."

I like it!
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:29 PM   #4
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who's gonna have an iwb holster for it?
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:43 AM   #5
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Kinda funny. I literally just picked mine up yesterday. Haven't gotten to shoot it yet though. Its very nice. Good clean lines and the best part is its shorter then my standard 16".
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Question ???????? Where is it?

Anyone know why this model doesn't show up on the Sig website?
The instruction manual that came with it is for the M400, no reference to this pistol model at all.
It has a born on date of Sept. 06-13.
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How well does it fit up against your shoulder when it's fully extended? My buddy and I were talking about this on the way to the range last Thursday, wish I had extra cash right now as that is one sick setup and I have a bad feeling that the government is going to find something wrong with it soon...
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I had no issues but then I have short arms compared to average and didn't pull it out more than a few inches. My father didn't care for the positioning. He had a hard time getting a good sight picture rapidly. It is a bit shorter length of pull than an extended carbine the way I have it and does not adjust easily, it does stay put though. I'm thinking an Eotech will make the sight picture issue much better, it's just a matter of getting used to the tight positioning. I can easily move down my 3 ft hallway with the "pistol" shouldered ( I'd never shoot it this way) it should be ideal for home defense.
The rubber is pretty stiff so when the strap is pulled tight it doesn't feel sloppy or squishy at all. I don't see much difference from a standard carbine buttstock. I'm sure there is a point that it would get wobbly but I haven't pulled it out that far yet. I can see where the addition of some material in the right places would make the fit even better but I don't want to run afoul of the law by altering anything from the factory specs.
I'm going to buy a few different bullet weights and see how they perform next, I'm hoping it handles the 77gr. stuff.
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Old 10-25-2013, 06:26 PM   #9
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Put another 200 rounds through the pistol/rifle today. No malfunctions and even the rookie shooters were hitting with the iron sights!
Beside the standard 55 gr. loads I ran the 62gr. green tips and a box of 45gr. varmint loads, dropped all the cases in a neat little pile. I'll try some heavier stuff when I find it and do some accuracy comparisons when I get to a good range again.
I'm finding it about impossible to shoot with the "brace" as it is advertised but otherwise it has quickly found a groove for me. Sig redeemed themselves for me on this one!
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Thumbs up Wow!

This weapon just amazed me with the accuracy. 45 yards off a picnic table with a range bag for a rest, factory iron sights, Federal XM193 ball ammo;
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I threw one of the five but for my poor eyesight and such a short barrel I was very impressed. I can't wait to get to real range and stretch it out to 100 yards.
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Added a Bushnell TRS-25 red dot with riser to the PM400 and went to the range Sunday morning. Amazing accuracy for a mediocre shooter and an 11 inch barrel. This target was 10 rounds at 50 yards and fired in less than 30 seconds;
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this pistol is a keeper for sure!
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Wink my pm400

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Welcome to SIG Talk, BCP!

Awesome paint job! Mine is really pressing my P229 for my favorite SIG handgun.
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I just saw it on the website 2-3 days ago, I just looked but can't find it. I'm positive because it caught my eye because I have a M400
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Anyone here in Florida?
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