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Old 01-16-2014, 12:28 PM   #1
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Can't load 15 rounds in P229-1 Mags

I have 2x M11-A1's with 6 OEM P229-1 Mags. I can only load 14 into any of the 6 mags. Elsewhere in this forum and in talking with Sig customer service it was suggested to 'break in the spring and/or mag follower' by loading 14 rounds and letting the sit for several weeks.
I disassembled them and loaded 15 rounds (with the mag up-side-down and with the follower in place) and the follower extends beyond the bottom of the mag. See attached images. Even with significant pressure, the bottom of the follower just barely gets flush. If the metal plate that the spring is attached to is ever so slightly twisted, the bottom of the follower will hit the metal plate first.
I could prob use a dremel tool and re-do the plastic bevels of the bottoms of the followers, but I hesitate to so.
Any thoughts?? Garyjeff
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Old 01-16-2014, 12:58 PM   #2
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Load them all as full as you can. Leave them sit 24 hours. Unload.

Repeat until you can put all the rounds in that should go.

A little exercise is required sometimes.
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getting the last rd in many new mags is difficult.
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Old 01-16-2014, 01:08 PM   #4
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You may find success using an Uplula loader. I was completely unable to load 10 rounds in my P224 .40 magazines without it. Now that I've had the gun for a year, I can load them by hand, but still prefer the speed and ease of an Uplula.
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Can't load 15 rounds in P229-1 Mags

Are those made in Italy 229-1 magazines? All my 229-1 mags are made in Italy and no problem fitting 15 rds. Reason I'm asking is because I got some 226 9mm 15 rd mags that are not made in Italy and it will only take 14 but never had any issues with the ones that are "Made in Italy"

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Old 01-16-2014, 01:45 PM   #6
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until you posted pics, i thought they were glock mags without the glock logo.
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You may find success using an Uplula loader.
+1 for this suggestion; best $34 you can spend.
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I don't think I've bought a new gun yet that didn't give me resistance fully loading the mags. They all got better with time.
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+1 for this suggestion; best $34 you can spend.
Uplula saved my marriage!

Lol, not really, but both me and my wife have much happier thumbs now, haha.
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Uplula saved my marriage!

Lol, not really, but both me and my wife have much happier thumbs now, haha.
This exactly. After I slashed my thumb open trying to force in the last round, I put a bandage on my gushing appendage and logged onto Amazon to order one straight away.
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I have this same problem with the two provided 15 round magazines that came with my P229 E2. I have a Butler Creek loader and that can barely get the 15th in. I feel like that 15th round doesn't belong in the magazine with the amount of force it takes to get it in there. I cannot do it by hand whatsoever.

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My friend had the same problem with one of his mags for his new P229 Scorpion, I found the spring was in backwards, now it holds 15. Not saying that's everyone's problem, just his.
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Keeping a spring compressed doesn't really wear it, you need to cycle the spring if you want to make any progress.

Just to make sure I would double-check that the spring and follower are installed correctly as above. If it is, then try loading it and unloading it until it will take 15.

Don't take a Dremel to it.
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My 229-1 mags were tight at first but they did losen up with use. The Uplula loader really takes the difficulty out of loading them. Keeps your thumb from taking a beating.
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:03 PM   #15
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I am plesantly amazed at the number of replies!!
In my opinion, the issue has to due with dimensional build up (lack of negative margin).
See attached image. With the 14th round loaded and the UpLULA firmly pressed down as far as I can go with significant pressure on my part, there just is not enough clearance between the UpLULA beak and the lips of the mag.

With all due respect to the folks that have replied:

@MalComp, bearone2-if the issue is due to the bottom of the follower bottoming out to the mag floor plate, I don't see how 14 rnds would resolve this.

@Prentice, et al - I have UpLULA model 24222, and it doesn't help. The cant of the UPLula beak reduces the clearance between the top of the beak and the mag lips. See attached photo. In fact, the UpLula website and instructions state "May not load the last round in a few types of mags."

@Mickey - The mags are really P229-1. They do NOT have the made in Italy stamp.

@bearone2 - They are indeed Sig P229-1 mags.

@hodge - I have never had any mag loading issues with my Browning HP, Berretta, Desert Eagle, or Ruger mags.

@Zevyn - Yup

@Sarge1998 - Spring is installed correctly. See previous photo 4529a.

@HAZMatt - Spring and follower are correctly installed. So far, loading and unloading, about 10 times so far, over a 10 day period, has not resolved the issue.

I just have a difficult time understanding how a dimensional fit (lack of tolerance) would be fixed by loading and unloading.

In any event, see the attached image.

Again, thanks for all your replies. Kind Regards, Gary
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