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kazaam 09-26-2012 08:47 AM

How much does the high bore axis on Sigs affect shooting?
 
I keep hearing about high bore axis on Sigs and its starting to get annoying lol. How horrible is the fact that Sigs have a high bore axis?

TravestyTrav 09-26-2012 09:04 AM

I personally think people put way too much credence in bore axis height and how important it is to be as low as possible. All pistols have a bore axis that's above your hand, so you're always going to have some amount of barrel rise when firing. That's just simple physics and body mechanics. As with all firearms, practice improves your how well you shoot with it, so if you get used to shooting with a SIG and its higher bore axis, you'll have no problems. Most people who complain about the high bore axis on SIGs are used to Glocks or other pistols, and don't spend enough time shooting SIGs to recognize all the good features that make up for the bore axis height.

majorhavoc 09-26-2012 09:11 AM

I can see how a higher bore axis might affect the absolute speed of follow up shots, but I shoot for fun, not for combat.

Even in a self defense situation, I can't really see how a few hundredths of a second would make any practical difference.

th3ug1y0n3 09-26-2012 09:55 AM

I don't think that the higher bore axis bothers the Navy Seals

silversport 09-26-2012 10:45 AM

it DOES make a difference...how much of a difference is the question...for many people...not enough to make them switch brands...

Bill

Sig228Nut 09-26-2012 12:04 PM

It is more perception than reality. It doesn't affect the shooter at all. Ignore the gossip.

Vetteguy904 09-26-2012 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silversport (Post 37384)
it DOES make a difference...how much of a difference is the question...for many people...not enough to make them switch brands...

Bill

what make more of a difference bore axis or a longer DAO trigger as opposed to a short 4 lb sa followup?

I'll take SA for 500 please, Alex

arclight610 09-26-2012 12:16 PM

Not much of a difference when shooting service calibers. If Sig made a 10mm, you would probably see a big difference.

vtwinsrule 09-26-2012 03:20 PM

Sig's do not have a high bore axis. There are some other pistols that have a slightly
lower bore axis. The majority of semi-auto handguns have as high or higher bore axis
than Sig. I've not heard any one claim the 1911 has too high a bore axis yet it is as
high or higher than Sig. Learn to shoot what you have and quit whining about some
supposed deficiency in your pistol. Max Michele doesn't seem to have a problem shooting
his high bore axis Sig fast. I got into Sig after 30 years of almost exclusively COLT 1911A1
pistols in 45 acp. I have a comp. gun that I used for pins and plates. My times were almost the same wether shooting the comp. or stock guns. Unless you are at the level
of Max or Rob Leatham you will never see a difference in shooting an Austrian gun or
a German gun. Give Max an R-G revolver and he will still shoot you before you get your
gun out of the holster. Practice makes perfect, not firearm choice. My $.02. Shawn

Sigarms228 09-26-2012 03:43 PM

I also think it is WAY overblown and other factors come into play such as the weight of the slide/pistol and length.

If one was to be unfortunate enough to get into an actual gun battle IMO things like skill level, tactics, mindset, and some luck are what is going to determine your fate. It also always helps to try and really make that first shot count.

scooter 09-26-2012 04:21 PM

All about practice and form. The last two IDPA shoots ive been to i have watched a guy with a 229 in 40 outshoot most of us with 9mms and hes using factory ammo so its not like he using light reloads, it sure doesnt seem to bother him too much.

sigshter 09-26-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by th3ug1y0n3 (Post 37383)
I don't think that the higher bore axis bothers the Navy Seals

Damn sure bothers the guys on the other end! :D

majorhavoc 09-26-2012 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigshter (Post 37473)
Damn sure bothers the guys on the other end! :D


QFT. Damn straight! :D

bearone2 09-26-2012 06:46 PM

with all this discussion, i don't know if glocks are hi or low but my 30 is the softest shooting 45 i've ever fired.

th3ug1y0n3 09-26-2012 10:09 PM

Just when I was getting converting over to Sig. Now I am concerned about this high bore sight issue. I will have to do some more research and maybe just not convert over. Geez.....


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