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M11-A1 vs P229

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Old 01-09-2013, 05:56 AM   #1
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M11-A1 vs P229

I have spent HOURS trying to figure out key differences between the two....... I have found 5.

1) M11-A1 chambers ONLY in 9mm, P229 chambers in 9mm, .357, .40, .45.
2) M11-A1 is .3 inches shorter overall than the P229.
3) M11-A1 has polymer grip, P229 has metal
4) M11-A1 is .1 inches thinner than P229.
5) M11-A1 comes in 1 model, the P229 comes in multiple models.

Other than this, everything else is identical, including comparative magazine round counts, weight, height, barrel length, etc, etc, etc. Both are available with SRT and the like. And even that which is different, except for caliber and customization options, is rather insignificant....

I'm trying to figure out why people make such a big deal about the M11-A1 being a crap gun, besides the "its not a REAL P-series." I am researching which is better to save up to purchase. I am stuck between the M11-A1 and the P229 Enhanced Elite. Other than the above mentioned, the P229 EE has a picatinny rail, but if its going to be a carry, whats the point? If you couldn't tell, I am partial to 9mm.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:49 AM   #2
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Unless you really want the beavertail that the Elite provides, you may want to compare the M11A1 to the P229 SAS. Physical stats and specs are nearly identical. The SAS capacity is 13 rounds in 9mm vs. 15 for the M11A1 which I cannot understand since they are virtually the same gun. If intended for carry, you may find the dehorned slide and frame (i.e., Sig Anti Snag - SAS) of the 229 SAS to be of value. The M11A1 gets you the phosphate coating on the internal which is supposed to be superior to nitron finish. For my environment, nitron is good enough. The M11A1 also gets you the UID sticker which is....well, there.

I personally consider them both to be legitimate models of the classic SIG design.
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I live on the gulf coast of Florida. Humid, salty air. Sweat in summer and sometimes in winter. This is a very gun unfriendly, environmentally at least, part of Tue country....

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I live on the gulf coast of Florida. Humid, salty air. Sweat in summer and sometimes in winter. This is a very gun unfriendly, environmentally at least, part of Tue country....

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How does the nitron finish hold up in your area?
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I just for a p250 a month and a half ago so I havent gotten that far yet unfortunately

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Actually, my P229 SAS came with 15rd magazines. They come with the same P229-1 magazines as the M11-A1 and all current-production P229/9mms
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I just got a M11-A1 and love the feel of it. I have yet to fire it though. From the research I have done, the complaints about the M11-A1 is that it is not an exact replica of the military issue M11, which is a 228. Alot of people want Sig to produce the P228 again, and was hoping the M11-A1 would be it. But basically its a 229 with the milled stainless slide, no rail, the Short Reset Trigger, and phospated internals. If you know that up front and that's what you want, that's great. If you ordered it expecting it to be a 228 with folded carbon steel slide, you may be disappointed.

I haven't shot mine yet but like I said, but it sure feels nice in the hand, and I love the feel of the trigger. I could care less about the graphic on the side, or that it isn't exact. It just feels like a nice solid pistol.
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Actually, my P229 SAS came with 15rd magazines. They come with the same P229-1 magazines as the M11-A1 and all current-production P229/9mms

I thought I had seen the SAS advertised with 15 round magazines. Not sure why the SIG site is saying 13 round mags.
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it's got to be a misprint on the 13.
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SIG site says 13 round mag capacity (in 9mm) for the base 229, DAK and Elite Dark. I've had a 229 for a year and it came with 2 15 round mags. A little sloppy on the site maintenance by SIG I'd say.
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The M11A1 is high on my list right now. While I haven't found any available right now, I have seen and held the P229. That only made it harder to decide, the P229 had a great feel and balance.

The information here has been very helpful. Still going to look for that M11A1 to be sure.

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SIG site says 13 round mag capacity (in 9mm) for the base 229, DAK and Elite Dark. I've had a 229 for a year and it came with 2 15 round mags. A little sloppy on the site maintenance by SIG I'd say.
A guy awhile back got a Elite Dark and it had the older frame with the slimmer magazines. He had already bought two 229-1s. He was not amused as I remember the thread.
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Both are fine weapons with small differences, I chose dark elite and love it
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M11-A1 comes with 3 15 round magazines. It also comes standard with Sig night sights, SRT trigger, phosphate coated internals, laser etched Sig insignia on top of slide, two piece grips, and the gimmicky UID label on the side. As stated above you will get night sights and SRT trigger plus a beavertail frame, front cocking serrations, one piece ergonomic grip, and accessory rail with the 229 Enhanced Elite but you will probably pay more than the M11-A1. If you plan to carry then the non-railed non-beavertail frame and smoother corners of the M11-A1 makes for less potential snag issues if you ever had to draw your weapon. Good luck with your decision.

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I picked up an M11-A1 as my first Sig. I have been very happy with it. Took a while to find a holster that it fit in. It literally got locked in a Fobus holster, had to use my heels to pull the gun out. In any case, to me it shoots the same as a 229. I carry when I'm out fishing, so if I got into the water, the extra corrosion resistance was a selling point to me. I was very surprised on how well I did shooting it weak hand.
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