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Old 01-19-2013, 08:01 AM   #16
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What Sig model holster did you find fit your P938? I'm having a devil of a time finding stuff for this new gun.
There are several makers whom are now making holsters specifically for the Sig model P938. I just ordered one from dmbullardleather.com, called the Bodyguard.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:13 PM   #17
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Trying to figure out why carry half cocked. There is even an expression about not going off half cocked.


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Well I took the P938 to the range on Gun Appreciation Day (19th) and tried the half cocked issue. Indeed the hammer did fall, but the weapon did not fire. Tried it a number of times with the same result.Ammunition in the magazine was Winchester PDX1 Personal Defense +P. As I stated, I carry cocked and locked and I feel comfortable doing so. If Sig decides that this issue needs to be recalled I will send it in. Until then, business as usual.
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Well Tried it!

We went out back on the property yesterday and did some shooting. I tried to discharge my P938 from "Half Cocked" position and nothing happened. I attempted it using: Hornady Critical Defense, Winchester Bulk - Ball/FMJ and Home Loads w/Winchester primer. After our little testing process was completed, I did put another 150 rds. through it, now pushing 900 with zero problems . I believe at this point due to the reliability, size and ease of carry, (this is tough to say) but this will replace my trusty Kimber .45 as my daily common carry. If I go somewhere where I feel I still want a bit more confidence, I'll still take my K but geewhiz, I may have just got lucky but my little P938 as slick as snot on glass door knob and I find mine to be a real keeper!

I'll keep reading this thread to see what others find from their testing. So far it's nothing but a benign odd design quirk.
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I confirmed that that my p938 will fire from the half-cocked condition with the safety on. I’ve carried without an issue for six months now and will continue to carry it. I carry it cocked and locked either in an IWB or pocket holster (it’s primarily for summer wear).

Just as a matter of course, I rack the slide back, engage the safety, load the magazine and release the slide lock chambering a round, remove the magazine and replace the round and reload the magazine. I’ve never released the hammer on anything other than an empty chamber, so this issue doesn’t present a problem to me with the way I use the pistol.

It would be interesting to hear something official come out of SIG about it.
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:31 PM   #21
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I tested mine on Sunday and it does not fire from the half cocked position...I would never carrying it in this manner anyway...
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Why did you think they named it "Nightmare"?
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Trying to figure out why carry half cocked. There is even an expression about not going off half cocked.


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That expression is as you wrote.
To be more clear change "going off" to firing.
It speaks to being on safety.
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Going against the grain here. I like mine and don't care about this "issue". I have zero concerns about safety with my P938.
Agreed. I tested and it doesn't fire for two reasons. One, its two light to ignite most primers and two, the firing pin block stops it.

Safety works just fine. Besides, the only danger was by the original poster pulling the trigger with safety off and a round in the chamber to get it to the half cocked position in the first place.

The hammer decock with safety on is nothing compared to that.

Just a thought.
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The hammer can be manually moved to half-cocked with the safety on.
Worse, yet, a trigger pull, with the safety ON, WILL drop the hammer!!!
Yep, I'd say design flaw squared!

Guess we need to use ammo with the toughest primers. If your ammo fires from half-cocked, maybe look for some different brand?
That only works when there is not a round in the chamber.

The way to half cock with round in Chamber is to rack one in, take off safety, stick your thumb in front of hammer, pull trigger, hope your thumb doesn't slip, grab a rag to stop the bleeding, call 911, report your negligence to your health insurance carrier. Then read for the first time your safe firearms instruction list.

Simple steps. Lets not. I thought I wanted half cocked but realized I couldn't think or a single reason to with the firing pin block in this design.
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No, no, NO!

If I was unclear let me apologize. First, I do carry "Cocked and Locked", it was one of the reasons for buying this pistol to begin with. I prefer SA and the cool custom holster I had made has a retention strap that goes over the face of the cocked hammer . Second, my P938 "Blackwood" with magazine inserted safety on, the hammer will position back to "Half Cocked" if leveraged with the thumb (or, I assume, any like pressure). If the trigger is squeezed the hammer will drop. In my subsequent testing, I found no discharge from my firearm, using three different types of ammo, from the "Half Cocked position." I brought this issue up because all my other SA 1911's (I realize the P938 is not a true 1911), will not drop the hammer from either "Half" or "Full Cocked" position when the safety is engaged or "Half Cocked" with the safety is disengaged. As such my initial concern when I found by lark the P938 did and SIG had expressed no understanding, by their in house rep., why that would occur or why it should even be addressed even after I stated it could potentially pose a real liability issue. For this reason I was curious if other owners found this to be a real and present danger or, again, simply a benign non-consequential design issue. Ahhh, I feel better.
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