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95SigP228 01-18-2013 11:06 PM

West German SIG?
 
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I have a 228 with proof marks on the frame and underneath the dustcover with matching serial numbers on slide, frame and barrel. It does not say "made in W Germany" on the slide. Would it still be considered a W german gun?

95SigP228 01-19-2013 12:44 AM

Is there any difference between mine and one marked with "Made In W. Germany"?

ronin2 01-19-2013 02:39 AM

Its a "German" gun regardless. No difference other then the "W". Same factory, same equipment and probably the same employees. It's a German gun manufactured after German reunification +/- 1991. What is the two letter date code on the underside of the muzzle end of the slide?

bearone2 01-19-2013 04:22 AM

kf/'95

DBS 01-19-2013 05:50 AM

Your pistol was manufactured, assembled, test-fired, and proofed in Germany in 1995. Germany had unified by then, and Sig had used up their stockpiled inventory of slides stamped "Made in W. Germany."

So technically you don't have a West German gun, but it is still 100% German and is otherwise equivalent to a "true" W. German Sig.

95SigP228 01-19-2013 12:59 PM

Thank you DBS, that's what I wanted to know.

DBS 01-19-2013 04:01 PM

Sure thing. As Ronin2 said, the only difference between your pistol and a "Made in W. Germany" pistol is the W.

By the way, many consider German Sigs from the mid-90s to be the best Sig ever made. Congratulations.

Vortec MAX 01-20-2013 07:49 PM

My first P220, which I still have, was stamped "Made in W. Germany" on the slide. That pistol is VERY accurate and has the sweetest factory trigger I've ever had in a pistol. That's why I still have it when the new P220s have "short reset" triggers, and rails, etc. It is still my favorite. I have owned it for over 20 years.

I need to send mine in and have the slide re-blued. I have worn all the high points to shiny spots now. Might throw night sights on it as well.

Mike

ronin2 01-20-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vortec MAX (Post 59152)
My first P220, which I still have, was stamped "Made in W. Germany" on the slide. That pistol is VERY accurate and has the sweetest factory trigger I've ever had in a pistol. That's why I still have it when the new P220s have "short reset" triggers, and rails, etc. It is still my favorite. I have owned it for over 20 years.

I need to send mine in and have the slide re-blued. I have worn all the high points to shiny spots now. Might throw night sights on it as well.

Mike

I sent a old P220 European in three weeks ago for a tune up and rebluing by SIG....the gun came back LIKE NEW with one week turnaround!

I got the following:

Full Service Package – Detailed stripping and complete and thorough cleaning of the entire pistol. Professional safety inspection of critical components by factory certified personnel. Replacement of springs prone to wear ( trigger bar spring, slide catch lever spring, recoil spring) and any needed small parts. Then lubrication to factory standards, reassembly and function testing. (Not available for Mosquito models). $84.95

Nitron finish for stainless slides or bluing for carbon steel slides – Refinish your stainless steel slide with our Nitron finish or re-blue your carbon steel slide. (WE DO NOT REFINISH FRAMES.)$99.95

Vortec MAX 01-22-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ronin2 (Post 59160)
I sent a old P220 European in three weeks ago for a tune up and rebluing by SIG....the gun came back LIKE NEW with one week turnaround!

I got the following:

Full Service Package Detailed stripping and complete and thorough cleaning of the entire pistol. Professional safety inspection of critical components by factory certified personnel. Replacement of springs prone to wear ( trigger bar spring, slide catch lever spring, recoil spring) and any needed small parts. Then lubrication to factory standards, reassembly and function testing. (Not available for Mosquito models). $84.95

Nitron finish for stainless slides or bluing for carbon steel slides Refinish your stainless steel slide with our Nitron finish or re-blue your carbon steel slide. (WE DO NOT REFINISH FRAMES.)$99.95

That sounds like exactly what I want to do, but with the addition of night sights.

I will say that I am "worried" that the sights will not be as "dead on" if I have them replaced. My P220 has fixed sights, but they are so perfectly "on," that it scares me to have them touched. They probably have to remove the existing sights to re-blue the slide anyway.

Since our "old" guns have steel slides, they must have blued the slide instead of using Nitron.

Mike

DBS 01-22-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ronin2 (Post 59160)
I sent a old P220 European in three weeks ago for a tune up and rebluing by SIG....the gun came back LIKE NEW with one week turnaround!

I got the following:

Full Service Package Detailed stripping and complete and thorough cleaning of the entire pistol. Professional safety inspection of critical components by factory certified personnel. Replacement of springs prone to wear ( trigger bar spring, slide catch lever spring, recoil spring) and any needed small parts. Then lubrication to factory standards, reassembly and function testing. (Not available for Mosquito models). $84.95

Nitron finish for stainless slides or bluing for carbon steel slides Refinish your stainless steel slide with our Nitron finish or re-blue your carbon steel slide. (WE DO NOT REFINISH FRAMES.)$99.95

Interesting. I recently tried to send in my Browning BDA .45, which is exactly the same pistol as your European 220, and they said they no longer have the proper springs and parts to perform the Service Package on that weapon. Do you remember the name of the rep you dealt with?

ronin2 01-22-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS (Post 59618)
Interesting. I recently tried to send in my Browning BDA .45, which is exactly the same pistol as your European 220, and they said they no longer have the proper springs and parts to perform the Service Package on that weapon. Do you remember the name of the rep you dealt with?

Steve Gero
SIG Sauer Customer Service
603 610 3856. Direct line

DBS 01-22-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ronin2 (Post 59639)
Steve Gero
SIG Sauer Customer Service
603 610 3856. Direct line

This is great--thank you.

ronin2 01-22-2013 12:44 PM

He is an EXCELLENT customer service representative IMHO

DBS 01-22-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ronin2 (Post 59644)
He is an EXCELLENT customer service representative IMHO

I just left a message on his voicemail. I'll let you know what he says. My BDA is 35 years old and definitely needs to be refreshed. Really appreciate your help.


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