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Old 01-22-2013, 08:25 AM   #16
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Oneover so much anger...(to paraphrase Yoda), It sounds as though you agree the issues, now, with the 938 seem to be primarily aesthetic. I agree they need to tighten up in QC/QA. Also, their Phone Reps could certainly be a bit more on top of it. Having never worked for SIG, there's is no way I could speak of their corporate culture. I still very much appreciate the product produced by SIGSaur and it appears the mechanical performance of the 938 has smoothed out compared to earlier production models.
No anger here, just fed up with the corporate america mentality. My rant is not only directed at Sig, many other companies are the same now. I think more of us should stand up and complain to these companies. If we just accept their failures do you think they will change?
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:35 AM   #17
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Wow...I couldn't have asked for better responses, and I really appreciate the in-depth answers. They do make me feel a little more comfortable about possibly buying one of these 938's.

I'll tell you the reason I want one. I am an older female that has lost a bit of my strength. I am totally in love with my new Glock 26 but racking the slide is somewhat of a little challenge for me. I love the ease with which I can rack the 938.... And I love its sleek look and feel in my hand.

I'm sorry to hear that Sig's quality-control has diminished just a bit though. I can't tell you how much I respect the making of the P232 that I bought about 10 or so years ago. It is a nice small sized gun that shoots very smoothly and is unbelievably accurate. I expected the 938 to be of the same quality.

Well, right now these guns just can't be had. All guns are flying off the shelf. All are just out-of-stock. My one gun shop that had one 938 was selling it for $12 above MSRP and I thought that was really taking advantage. It did eventually sell but I'd have bought it if the price had been reasonable.

The other day I was amazed and very entertained to see one shop selling their AR-15's at the rate of one about every minute and a half. The fellows were lined up to buy and the salesman would say 'which one do you want' and the fellow would point to one and that one would be taken off the wall and propped up on the floor and the paperwork given to the buyer. Then the next fellow would be asked the same question....those guns were coming off the wall so fast I couldn't believe it. The guy next to me said these same $2500 guns were only $1100 one month ago. I does give me some comfort to know just about everybody is getting armed now.

So....thanks for all the good answers you guys gave me here. Not to be too greedy but even more responses would certainly be welcome.
Howdy!

I can relay my wife's experience with the 938 (and a bit of my own since I use it occasionally). So far, we've had nothing but great things to say about it.

One minor complaint is that sometimes when removing a full magazine, the top cartridge pops out when you eject the magazine. This seems to be a "stiff spring" issue, as it has all but resolved itself now that we are 5-600 rounds into the gun.

Other than that mag issue, we've had no problems with FTE/FTF. One friend shooting it had a FTE, but they were brand new to shooting, limp wristing, and often getting their fingers tied up in the slide, so I'm 99% sure it was not the gun. For my wife and I, we've had 0 problems like that.

Compared to small Rugers and Glocks to which we've compared it, (IMHO) you can't beat the accuracy of this gun in its class. It's easy to carry and fun to shoot.
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Well, I guess I'll have to find out if the 938 likes this practice ammo. My wife just scored two boxes of 250 115 grain Remington UMC 9mm for $57/box at Wal-Mart.

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Nice price, nicer wife!
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:41 AM   #20
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Nice price, nicer wife!
She was even so thoughtful she called before buying. As she was placing the boxes in her cart two guys came sliding up and they said "DAMN! 30 seconds too late!"

They still had some 50 round boxes of some other 115 grain ammo but it was over $20/box. Even if my 938 hates this stuff, my G26 will eat it just fine, as will the Ruger P89DC.
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I'll weight in with my 2cents worth. I purchased my p938 Extreme back in Dec - November Manufacture date. Had issues with Failure to fire with several differnet types of ammo - but S&B was by far the worst -maybe they have hard primers. - sent it to Sig - got it back in 8 days. They "staked" something -sorry i can not for the life of me remember what but it definately puts a bigger dent in the primers now - all ammo since has been flawless except S&B - still has issues with s&b on occasion. I had to adjust my sights slightly but the gun has performed well since it's trip to sig. I just picked it up from having the trigger lightened a hair. hopefully going to test it tonight. I am very pleased with the accuracy and ergonomics of the gun. Handles +p just fine. Great Sights! easy to conceal (i use a Remora 3b IW FYI - i only shot 124gr ammo. I have heard many say 115gr gives more trouble but i have not tried it. Sig recommends 124 or above i believe. Let your mags sit loaded for a while - that helps "calm" them down a little

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Okay I read one post and think...."I better hold off on this...." and then I read the next post and say..."Think I'll buy one as soon as they're back in stock"...and so I keep going back and forth. Would you people just please hurry up and make up my mind!

Another question: I've never seen a P938 with the 'rubber grips' for sale. I see mostly the Extreme and Nightmare grips. Can I buy the rubber grips if I have to get one of those other guns with different grips?
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was having the FTE problem with 115gr bullets - did an ultra clean and switched to 124gr - didn't have the problem - another ultra clean and tried the 115grers today - got more FTE

I think I'm being told something (but 124gr ammo is so darned hard to find)

by the way, did get four 100 round boxes of 115gr Federal - $21.37 per box at WalMart on the way home from the range - he had 8 boxes and I wanted all 8 but the clerk limited me to the four. went out to the truck and sent my Wife back in for the remaining but, dagnabit, someone was buying 'em

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Okay I read one post and think...."I better hold off on this...." and then I read the next post and say..."Think I'll buy one as soon as they're back in stock"...and so I keep going back and forth. Would you people just please hurry up and make up my mind!

Another question: I've never seen a P938 with the 'rubber grips' for sale. I see mostly the Extreme and Nightmare grips. Can I buy the rubber grips if I have to get one of those other guns with different grips?
Don't let anybody like me steer you away from this gun. If you can shoot a G26 you can shoot this gun. It's just different. Hogue makes a rubber grips for this gun so I've heard. Here's the link.

I haven't tried to shoot 115 grain ammo through this gun yet but plan on trying it soon. The 124 grain does work fine.
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Okay I read one post and think...."I better hold off on this...." and then I read the next post and say..."Think I'll buy one as soon as they're back in stock"...and so I keep going back and forth. Would you people just please hurry up and make up my mind!

Another question: I've never seen a P938 with the 'rubber grips' for sale. I see mostly the Extreme and Nightmare grips. Can I buy the rubber grips if I have to get one of those other guns with different grips?
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Sorry I cant help with your decision.
I got the Hogue grips for about $30 +/- including shipping for my nightmare check their website or call them on your particular model. Hogue does not have spare screws for the P938 so use blue loctite if you change grips. I may contact Sig before they ship mine back and see if they'll throw in a few extra screws(and perhaps a spare extractor or two ). Those rubber grips combined with the 7 round (extended) mag make the gun feel great and much easier to shoot. Although that is the only money, its the best I've spent on that gun. I know I've done a bunch of _itching but when my P938 is shooting its really nice and even more so with the grips and extended mag.
Note the bulk of the rubber grip may interfere with a good fit if your holster is already snug or comes close to the grip. The grip adds not quite 1/4 inch thickness to each side and front finger ridge.

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Thanks for all that additional info. You guys that really like the gun pushed me over the edge. So what I did is your fault.

I got a price-match okay from Raven Arms out of Arizona so I bit the bullet and paid $614...plus shipping and FFL fee. (Raven Arms original price I believe was $662) If I'd bought it here locally the tax would have killed me. I'm having it sent to my most local gun shop just up the street.

I'll remember to use my 125 gr. ammo instead of the 115 gr I've got. Now I just need a good conceal holster. Does anybody know if they make a "MIC" holster for these Sigs?

Thanks to all of you who contributed your opinions and responded to my questions! You all made this a very interesting discussion!
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Thanks for all that additional info. You guys that really like the gun pushed me over the edge. So what I did is your fault.

I got a price-match okay from Raven Arms out of Arizona so I bit the bullet and paid $614...plus shipping and FFL fee. (Raven Arms original price I believe was $662) If I'd bought it here locally the tax would have killed me. I'm having it sent to my most local gun shop just up the street.

I'll remember to use my 125 gr. ammo instead of the 115 gr I've got. Now I just need a good conceal holster. Does anybody know if they make a "MIC" holster for these Sigs?

Thanks to all of you who contributed your opinions and responded to my questions! You all made this a very interesting discussion!

You gonna leave us all hanging, or tell us what version you scored.
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Oh, sorry. I got the Sig P938 with Rubber Grips. The link is here but they took my price match of $614 and it's on back order, of course:

Sig Sauer P938 9mm w/Rubber Grip

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Go ahead and order the Extended mags for it now while your already in line. I'd get at least three. I got my holster made by Jim Powell at leatherandstuff.com, he made it the way I wanted at a very reasonable price, welted, stitched and riveted. I hope I out live that thing. I used nothing but 124gr. zero problems @ 800+rds. Keep the rails and slide greased and get an UpLula magazine loader. These mags use springs from old Chrysler Imperials, so the UpLula will save your fingers and thumb a pile of pain. BTW you'll love the Hogue grips, nice palm swell. With all that, keep you mags full and groups tight!
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I can't see any extended mags at the same place. And, do you know if my Glock 9mm reloader might work with the Sig? I can't believe a brand new Sig comes with only one mag. My Glock 26 came with three! I guess Glock knows how to please.

Thanks for the tips and good advice! Can't wait to get my hands on this thing. But it'll take a while. I have to mail the payment and then once the gun gets to my FFL here another background check will take 8 to 10 days. Now that I find funny because 2 months ago it took 30 minutes.
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