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Old 01-21-2013, 08:39 PM   #1
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Has Sig fixed the P938 yet?

I was in my local gun shop the other day and got to handle in person the P938 and a little Ruger LC9. I liked the Sig a little better but I'm reading all kinds of disappointing reviews on the Net and on YouTube. Does anybody know if Sig has addressed the problems?

I didn't like the Ambi Safety at all, it bit my finger on the opposite side when I engaged it on the left side. (Any way to disable that safety on the opposite side?) Anyhow....I'd love to have this P938 but sure don't want an undependable gun that's still got problems.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:01 PM   #2
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I was in my local gun shop the other day and got to handle in person the P938 and a little Ruger LC9. I liked the Sig a little better but I'm reading all kinds of disappointing reviews on the Net and on YouTube. Does anybody know if Sig has addressed the problems?

I didn't like the Ambi Safety at all, it bit my finger on the opposite side when I engaged it on the left side. (Any way to disable that safety on the opposite side?) Anyhow....I'd love to have this P938 but sure don't want an undependable gun that's still got problems.

I had the same concerns as you do. I recently purchased the P938 on 1-11-13, born on 12-10-12. Got the chance to put a box of 50 115gr thru it this weekend. Gun worked flawlessly. This was cheap ammo, and was several years old. Feeling a little better about my purchase than I was a week ago.

I really like the look, feel, and concealability of this gun. I hope it continues to perform. I am still a little concerned about the safety issue when half cocked, but the more I read about it, and think about it, the less I am concerned.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:02 PM   #3
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I would hold off for at least a year. It may sound sarcastic but its not meant to be. My 938 was fixed in late Nov and is on the way back as I type this. 2X broken extractor. I really like the feel with Hogue grips and extended mag. I also asked them to look at the ambi safety being loose too.

Look here: Sig P938 Second Broken Extractor Not Happy
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If I'm remembering right, the first gun I ever bought was a Sig P232. VERY sleek and accurate. I'll never sell it. But I'm into 9mm now.

I think you're right about waiting a year. Really. I've seen no evidence that they're doing much about these problems. So do you think it'll be a good gun in a year?

What I don't get is this....I thought Sig Sauer had an immaculate reputation. Why would they put out such a nice little CCW as the 938 before making sure it would be dependable, etc? I really don't get it. Why would they risk their good reputation by jumping the gun on this one? Seriously.
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some have no problems, some are horror shows.
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All the little guns have issues. Many run just fine, but squeezing down puts pressure on all the parts involved. Ruger does pretty good at taking care of them.
Sig sells lifetime with theirs.
The full size I expect decades of service. The sub compact we really don't know yet.
Granted the little ones probably will never see the round count.
Really it comes down to what works in your hand. I couldn't rent a 938, but I did rent a 238 first. I tried the LC 9 also and was not won over.
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Will we ever know?

I read what other people seem to experience an try to gauge it against mine. As far as function and accuracy, it has performed as well as I could have ever expected. At this point 800+ rounds Winchester, Hornady and home loads. All 124gr. and zero failures. Blackwood model B-Day 18 Nov. '12. I am hard to please but would say I'm 90% happy. It's not perfect, but it is a solid performer (to save some curiosity, my issues are mostly aesthetic save the "Half Cocked" thing which seems benign).

I would buy this gun again without hesitation. The Ambi safety is a great thing, practice weak hand and you'll come to appreciate it. This is a very good CC gun IMHO.
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If I'm remembering right, the first gun I ever bought was a Sig P232. VERY sleek and accurate. I'll never sell it. But I'm into 9mm now.

I think you're right about waiting a year. Really. I've seen no evidence that they're doing much about these problems. So do you think it'll be a good gun in a year?

What I don't get is this....I thought Sig Sauer had an immaculate reputation. Why would they put out such a nice little CCW as the 938 before making sure it would be dependable, etc? I really don't get it. Why would they risk their good reputation by jumping the gun on this one? Seriously.
Sig has newer execs, they are part of the new generation of "bottom line only" business models. When Sig built it's stellar reputation their management team was not driven by profit only. That was back in the day of high quality and not releasing a product that did not function at 100%. I love my 938 now, but I did have to tweek it. I love to tinker with guns, but a $700 weapon should not have to be tinkered with out of the box. I am also not happy with the stainless finish on my slide, I looked over 3 different new in the box 938's, they all had marks on the slide from being in a plastic bag inside the factory Sig box. Yes just from rubbing in shipping it took the finish off the slide, on all of the 3 I looked at. Would this finish have been like this 15 years ago, hell no! I still think this new lesser quality Sig is better than some other brands out there, but I have my slide sent out now to a very reputable shop. I did this mainly because I know Sig could never duplicate what this shop will do and I want it to look great. However, I love my Sigs, but have a very bad taste in my mouth of the new Sig quality. I think if you purchase a weapon to protect you and your family it should work out of the box, Period! All the talk of small nines have teething issues is a bunch of BS, then teeth them at the factory and don't make your customers spend lots of hard earned money on break in ammo and possibly having to send it back for repairs. As far as having to use a certain weight of bullet, like no 115 grain, more BS, any 9mm sold at this price should feed any quality ammo, no matter what weight! Note to Sig, it also would be a great idea to hire reps that answer your phones to make sure they have fired a weapon at least once in their lives and not just get their answers from a computer screen.

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Oneover so much anger...(to paraphrase Yoda), It sounds as though you agree the issues, now, with the 938 seem to be primarily aesthetic. I agree they need to tighten up in QC/QA. Also, their Phone Reps could certainly be a bit more on top of it. Having never worked for SIG, there's is no way I could speak of their corporate culture. I still very much appreciate the product produced by SIGSaur and it appears the mechanical performance of the 938 has smoothed out compared to earlier production models.
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In my opinion, some if not most of the problems people have with this gun concerning feeding rounds and ejecting have to do with technique. I know that the first few rounds I put through it I was not consciously trying to minimize muzzle flip. I had probably six FTF out of 18 rounds doing that. Then I remembered that I wanted to minimize muzzle flip (perhaps shooting my G26 made me a little sloppy?) and when I really firmed up my grip and right wrist I had not a single problem since.

Watch the first 30 seconds of this video. This is the technique you need if you want to shoot this gun reliably.

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Wow...I couldn't have asked for better responses, and I really appreciate the in-depth answers. They do make me feel a little more comfortable about possibly buying one of these 938's.

I'll tell you the reason I want one. I am an older female that has lost a bit of my strength. I am totally in love with my new Glock 26 but racking the slide is somewhat of a little challenge for me. I love the ease with which I can rack the 938.... And I love its sleek look and feel in my hand.

I'm sorry to hear that Sig's quality-control has diminished just a bit though. I can't tell you how much I respect the making of the P232 that I bought about 10 or so years ago. It is a nice small sized gun that shoots very smoothly and is unbelievably accurate. I expected the 938 to be of the same quality.

Well, right now these guns just can't be had. All guns are flying off the shelf. All are just out-of-stock. My one gun shop that had one 938 was selling it for $12 above MSRP and I thought that was really taking advantage. It did eventually sell but I'd have bought it if the price had been reasonable.

The other day I was amazed and very entertained to see one shop selling their AR-15's at the rate of one about every minute and a half. The fellows were lined up to buy and the salesman would say 'which one do you want' and the fellow would point to one and that one would be taken off the wall and propped up on the floor and the paperwork given to the buyer. Then the next fellow would be asked the same question....those guns were coming off the wall so fast I couldn't believe it. The guy next to me said these same $2500 guns were only $1100 one month ago. I does give me some comfort to know just about everybody is getting armed now.

So....thanks for all the good answers you guys gave me here. Not to be too greedy but even more responses would certainly be welcome.

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I picked mine up before Thanksgiving. Haven't had any trouble out of it. I shoot a lot of115 grain through it at the range.I know I have put at least 900 rounds thru it. Without a hiccup. It's' my carry gun. I trust it almost as much as my full size glocks. Would I buy it again. You bet I would. Without a second thought.
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stmember, I can tell you with much certainty that it is easier to shoot and operate a G26 than it is a P938. Not a bunch easier, and perhaps the slide is easier to operate on the 938 than the G26, but the G26 is more forgiving of muzzle flip, and if you put on extended slide release and slide lock controls it's really easy to field strip. As a matter of fact, I've never had a single FTF or jam in either one of my Glocks, and that's with perhaps 500 rounds through them. It took me a bit to be able to shoot the 938 without feeding/ejection issues. I'm not the most experienced shooter, so that could give you hope. My wife shot a few rounds through it without too much trouble but I wouldn't get a 938 for her.

That said, the trigger on the 938 is simply excellent. The G26 trigger is OK but the 938 trigger is superior. Of course it shoots single-action only, whereas the Glocks shoot, well, whatever it is it's not single-action only. I really like the 938 and G26, both are excellent shooters and fine guns. But they are not for everybody.
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