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Old 01-29-2013, 03:08 AM   #1
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P938 Accuracy

I am knew to the forum a and relatively new to Sig. I came across a gently used P250 Digital Camo 9mm a few months ago and snatched it up. It felt perfect in my hand....amazing because I have really small hands. Not only that, but since I fractured both wrists a number of years back, my hand strength is not like it used to be but despite that, I could easily pull the slide... Smooth as silk. Brought it home, cleaned it, loaded it up and went out to my pasture a took a shot. I loved it! Extraordinarily accurate and easy to handle. I have been trying to decide on a CCW for a while and since I have had such good luck with the P250, I knew I had to have another Sig. I chose the P938 Equinox. Its beautiful. But I can't seem to hit anything consistently, if at all. I'm sure my weakened wrists have something to do with it. The smaller frame makes for more recoil of course but no matter how hard I try I can't seem to get the rounds to go toward the center of the paper. Very frustrating.

So.... Has anyone else experienced this with a P938? Is this typical... Should I change my grip, etc to accommodate the way the P938 functions? Suggestions please.
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get a couple of boxes of ammo thru it - if no improvement, get a lesson
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The 938's come with a number 8 rear sight and a number 6 front, this will cause it to shoot low. I am having my slide re finished and also having a number 8 front sight installed to move my groups up. So if you leave the factory 6 front and 8 rear sights on, you will probably have to aim higher. As for groups being not consistent, just practice more with this very small 9mm. I find the smaller nines require more concentration on the shooters part to tighten groups. The more you shoot this 938 the more you will like it and it's also good to hear a report with no known issues.
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maybe something differernt

bigsiggirl, I think your a lot smarter than you may realize. A small Sub Compact supersonic pistol is going to take more strength and concentration to control and be consistent with. You could practice and perhaps overcome the deficit you presently have (depends on the physical limitations of your wrist injuries), or you could drop down to a P238. The P238 is very much similar to the P938 except that it shoots a control friendly .380 caliber. Recoil can be an important issue for many shooters and the less gun mass you have, in conjunction with the firearms design, can make that even more difficult for some people. The main point is, there are so many factors to consider when buying a gun and finding a really good LGS that is concerned about a long term Customer Relationship is not easy. Too many sell the gun you want without helping you to find the gun you need. Too many consumers buy the gun that seems cool/good without really researching the good/bad characteristics of their purchase. Guns are machines. What they can deliver in performance is subject to many factors with not the least being the operational interaction with the Shooter. That is why there are so many models as individual owners present so many different platform support variables. That's why there is no one size fits all perfect gun. I'll get off the soap box now.
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bigsiggirl, I think your a lot smarter than you may realize. A small Sub Compact supersonic pistol is going to take more strength and concentration to control and be consistent with. You could practice and perhaps overcome the deficit you presently have (depends on the physical limitations of your wrist injuries), or you could drop down to a P238. The P238 is very much similar to the P938 except that it shoots a control friendly .380 caliber. Recoil can be an important issue for many shooters and the less gun mass you have, in conjunction with the firearms design, can make that even more difficult for some people. The main point is, there are so many factors to consider when buying a gun and finding a really good LGS that is concerned about a long term Customer Relationship is not easy. Too many sell the gun you want without helping you to find the gun you need. Too many consumers buy the gun that seems cool/good without really researching the good/bad characteristics of their purchase. Guns are machines. What they can deliver in performance is subject to many factors with not the least being the operational interaction with the Shooter. That is why there are so many models as individual owners present so many different platform support variables. That's why there is no one size fits all perfect gun. I'll get off the soap box now.



How right you are. I have said for a long time that it's virtually impossible to know what you are buying unless you have fired it. Problem is, none of the 3 ranges in town have a P938 (or any other compact 9mm) for me to try. The retailers have no clue and I don't know anyone in this area that has a P938. My wrists are not as stiff and weak as they used to be but my range of motion is not what it used to be either... Plates and screws will do that. So, I will keep shooting until I get it right! Also, thanks for the info on the sights. That's helpful. After reading other posts, I have bought some 124gr ammo. Heavier but possibly more accurate. I'll let you know. Anyone else?
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bigsiggirl- congrats on your purchases. You mentioned the 250 Camo but not which frame size (full, compact or subcompact). If you don't have it already, you might consider picking up a Sub Compact Xchange kit for your CCW needs; it's fairly small (same size as the P224) but a bit larger than the 938 and might be easier to handle.
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The 938's come with a number 8 rear sight and a number 6 front, this will cause it to shoot low. I am having my slide re finished and also having a number 8 front sight installed to move my groups up. So if you leave the factory 6 front and 8 rear sights on, you will probably have to aim higher.
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This is great to know. As a new P938 owner mine also shoots a little low and to the left. Any recommended sights to consider?
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bigsiggirl, I think your a lot smarter than you may realize. A small Sub Compact supersonic pistol is going to take more strength and concentration to control and be consistent with. You could practice and perhaps overcome the deficit you presently have (depends on the physical limitations of your wrist injuries), or you could drop down to a P238. The P238 is very much similar to the P938 except that it shoots a control friendly .380 caliber. Recoil can be an important issue for many shooters and the less gun mass you have, in conjunction with the firearms design, can make that even more difficult for some people. The main point is, there are so many factors to consider when buying a gun and finding a really good LGS that is concerned about a long term Customer Relationship is not easy. Too many sell the gun you want without helping you to find the gun you need. Too many consumers buy the gun that seems cool/good without really researching the good/bad characteristics of their purchase. Guns are machines. What they can deliver in performance is subject to many factors with not the least being the operational interaction with the Shooter. That is why there are so many models as individual owners present so many different platform support variables. That's why there is no one size fits all perfect gun. I'll get off the soap box now.
+1 on considering the P238. Easily concealable, accurate and an all around pleasure to shoot. With some practice if you still feel like you are having accuracy issues, then the 9 mm in such a small frame could be a bad choice for you. Some folks say that the 380 does not have enough "stopping power;" however, I vehemently disagree. A couple of well placed shots with a 380 is more than enough. Its also better than a few misses with a 9 mm.
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My P938 is extremely accurate, your intuition may be correct. The suggestion of the P238 has merit.
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I'm not trying to start a "shooting technique" discussin here, but, "low and to the left" is a common problem, both with new shooters and shooters with new guns they haven't gotten used to yet.

Without seeing how the pistol is in your hand, the "to the left" issue can be caused by too little finger on the trigger; move your finger so the edge of the trigger is touching the first joint crease. The pull is also stronger with this hold rather than a center-pad hold (scientifically proven). The "low" problem can be caused by squeezing the grip too tightly; the little finger tilts the pistol downward due to the angle formed between the middle and ring fingers with the pinky, at the knuckles. Try just gripping with the ring and middle fingers, concentrating on relaxing the pinky.

These may not be your particular problems, but I thought I would mention them.
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How right you are. I have said for a long time that it's virtually impossible to know what you are buying unless you have fired it. Problem is, none of the 3 ranges in town have a P938 (or any other compact 9mm) for me to try. The retailers have no clue and I don't know anyone in this area that has a P938. My wrists are not as stiff and weak as they used to be but my range of motion is not what it used to be either... Plates and screws will do that. So, I will keep shooting until I get it right! Also, thanks for the info on the sights. That's helpful. After reading other posts, I have bought some 124gr ammo. Heavier but possibly more accurate. I'll let you know. Anyone else?
The P239 maybe a good option for you. A little larger, and heavier, will help with recoil and control, giving you better accuracy. The size and weight will help soak up the felt recoil of the 9mm, without having to go to .380. It's a single stack magazine so it will have a narrower grip. Comes in DA/SA or DAK, and is a good size for CCW.
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This is great to know. As a new P938 owner mine also shoots a little low and to the left. Any recommended sights to consider?
If you stay with Sig sights change the front to a number 8. Call Sig and tell them it's shooting low and ask for a number 8. They may just send you one.
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If you stay with Sig sights change the front to a number 8. Call Sig and tell them it's shooting low and ask for a number 8. They may just send you one.
If not, they will certainly sell you one.
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... I can't seem to get the rounds to go toward the center of the paper. Very frustrating.

So.... Has anyone else experienced this with a P938? Is this typical... Should I change my grip, etc to accommodate the way the P938 functions? Suggestions please.
You might get better advice if you post a photo, or a description, of the grouping of your shots, and maybe a photo of your shooting grip. I also have the Equinox, and have been to the range only once, so far. I thought I was a better shot than what my first effort indicated, but I was using Fed Champion 115 gr FMJ ammo. Not too sure about its accuracy, and I shot only free hand. I want to try other ammo (when I can find some) and try using support. I'm sure I'll improve, and get a better idea where the sights are pointed.

As to the number 6 and 8 sight comments - the Equinox has a Tru-Glo front sight that extends back further, making the sight radius about 1/2" shorter than other models. This is not conducive to accuracy, but this is not a target pistol, either, and I love the bright green of the front sight outdoors. My rear sight is marked MH3 AL, and the front TG-M3. Mine seems to shoot a little left, but that could be my technique - for example I don't put the crease of my knuckle all the way over to the trigger, as someone suggested above. If your shots are all going one way or the other from mid-point, you might try using a snap cap, manually cocking, and firing many times trying to determine if it is your grip causing it, by noting the sight picture after the hammer falls. That will also help smooth out the trigger, which was really rough on mine, initially.

Hope that helps some.

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About "Stopping Power", a shot to the Pelvis/Hip will stop an attacker from charging better than a shot to the center of mass. OOOOpppps! Gotta eat diner, so I'll finish this later.
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