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View Poll Results: Dry firing, which is it?
Dry firing without stop damages gun 23 35.38%
Dry firing without stop does not damage gun 42 64.62%
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:43 PM   #31
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Of course you have!
Why would it be unbelievable that in a 20+ career in a SIG police department that I might have recertified 3x?

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You will not hurt your centerfire handgun by dry firing, with or without snap caps. Education, guys. So much more valuable that Internet gun forum gossip.
Sources guys, sources?

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Old 03-31-2013, 07:22 PM   #32
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I have at least 2x (400-600dry fires) that amount of dry firing on my P229 Dark Elite 40S&W. I just pulled the pin out to re Froglube. It looked brand new.

I will take a few pics in another 200 more dry fires. I have a P229 Special Configuration 9mm that went through the Custom Shop with about 200 dry fires on it. I'll take a pic of that one too if it it will put this topic to rest.


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If you want to post on a big boys forum, practice a little independent thought, rather than just cutting and a pasting.
Extensive dry firing is exactly what I'm talking about.

Here's an open offer to anyone who feels like they want to abuse their gun. Take any SIG classic pistol and dry fire it 200x. Pull the firing pin positioning pin and take a look, you won't like it.

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Old 03-31-2013, 07:36 PM   #33
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I have at least 2x (400-600dry fires) that amount of dry firing on my P229 Dark Elite 40S&W. I just pulled the pin out to re Froglube. It looked brand new.

I will take a few pics in another 200 more dry fires. I have a P229 Special Configuration 9mm that went through the Custom Shop with about 200 dry fires on it. I'll take a pic of that one too if it it will put this topic to rest.
It's already put to rest for me, it takes me about six seconds to drop a snap cap in before dry firing.
Of course I'm not an IPSC, Gunsite, IDPA, Call of Duty commando so what do I know?

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So you are turning down empirical evidence from two seperate guns?????? I though for the sake of speculation, I would make a effort and pull two seperate firing pins that have been excessivly dry fired. I didn't want to waist my time if no one really wants to see if there is any damage.......sure anything can break in a rare occurrence if its mechanical but that doesn't mean it has anything to do with how it was implemented.

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It's already put to rest of me, it takes me about six seconds to drop a snap cap in before dry firing.
Of course I'm not an IPSC, Gunsite, IDPA, Call of Duty commando so what do I know?
. I know I don't play video games.

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So you are turning down empirical evidence from two seperate guns??????

. I know I don't play video games.
Yes, I am, I've seen more than two damaged by excessive dry firing so I have no reason to risk it. I don't shoot IPSC with my guns, I need them to work.
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ROFL....I have never had a guy that competed in IPSC or IDPA say it didn't make him a better tactical shooter. You use your equipment to get better, not to break it. I would rather know what a handgun can or can't do on the range than find out in real life.

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Yes, I am, I've seen more than two damaged by excessive dry firing so I have no reason to risk it. I don't shoot IPSC with my guns, I need them to work.

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ROFL....I have never had a guy that competed in IPSC or IDPA say it didn't make him a better tactical shooter. You use your equipment to get better, not to break it. I would rather know what a handgun can or can't do on the range than find out in real life.
Glad I gave you a good chuckle,though I'm not really sure what was so funny.
We all have different views in what works and what doesn't and certainly we can agree to disagree.
What I think would be difficult to disagree on is that a snap cap does no harm, so I'll take the time to slip one in when I'm going to dry fire more than a few times, its certainly easy enough.
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[QUOTE=Malicious Compliance;91864]I'd be interested in your sourch for this tidbit of info.

There are several articles I've read over the years about this issue here is a link to one. For other you can search the web for articles and not just forum gossip. Just so we wont have to go back and forth on this issue excessive dry firing with any pistol modern or otherwise is going to cause wear on parts. I think to believe otherwise is equal to your putting regular gasoline into your car that is only recommended for premium. Eventually your engine is gonna start knocking. I agree modern metalurgy is a lot better than in the past but that being said its always better to be safe than sorry, so I'll stick to using snap caps to insure that whatever could go wrong won't.

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I agree modern metalurgy is a lot better than in the past but that being said its always better to be safe than sorry, so I'll stick to using snap caps to insure that whatever could go wrong won't.

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Ah yes, citing "Anonymous" from Glock.

Nothing wrong with using snap caps, but unnecessary.

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[QUOTE=Malicious Compliance;92194]Ah yes, citing "Anonymous" from Glock.

If you had bothered to click on link, which I guess you didnt there is an attached article with an author. Whether his creadentials meet with your approval is yea or nay. I wouldnt bother just citing "anonymous" to make a point, for that I could just utilize my own opinion as many are apt to do. But fear not for opinions are like noses everybody has one and on this subject to each his own.

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If you want to post on a big boys forum, practice a little independent thought, rather than just cutting and a pasting.
Extensive dry firing is exactly what I'm talking about.

Here's an open offer to anyone who feels like they want to abuse their gun. Take any SIG classic pistol and dry fire it 200x. Pull the firing pin positioning pin and take a look, you won't like it.
Some might classify a reply like that as "*******-ish".
Read it straight from the manufacturer of the guns: it's fine to dry fire. If you do it a lot, use a snap cap. /story

(EDIT: In your very next post you ask someone else for sources, yet when I post a source, you say it lacks independent thought? Sounds like a plan)

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Whatever the correct answer is to this, I don't know, but I do know that if you put a ear plug behind the hammer, it doesn't matter if you dry fire or not.

That's what I do. I have always been told growing up from my father and grandfather to not dry fire so I don't.

Do what you want with your guns/pistols, but I don't dry fire.
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Ah yes, citing "Anonymous" from Glock.

If you had bothered to click on link, which I guess you didnt there is an attached article with an author. Whether his creadentials meet with your approval is yea or nay. I wouldnt bother just citing "anonymous" to make a point, for that I could just utilize my own opinion as many are apt to do. But fear not for opinions are like noses everybody has one and on this subject to each his own.

Actually, my friend, I did read your link, in its entirety, prior to posting my response! It was an article authored by a gentleman by the name of Christopher Eger and published on a website titled GlockForum. He discussed his opinions of why you should not dry fire a Glock and at the end of his discourse, he pursued the official statement from Glock. I will quote here from the article:

"To get to the bottom of this, Glock Forum went right to the source and contacted Glock USA themselves. Here is what we found:

Dear Glock

I am writing an article on Glock Forum on Dry Firing G-series Glock pistols. What is the official Glock policy on this practice?

Is it ok or not, in a nutshell?

Christopher Eger


The quick response back:

Mr. Eger,

Generally, dry firing the Glock pistol is not a problem, however, when taken to excess, e.g., thousands of dry firings, Glock now recommends the use of snap-caps.
When taken to the extreme, the breech-face can be damaged.

Best regards,
(Name redacted)
Glock Inc, Technical Services
6000 Highlands Parkway
Smyrna, GA 30082"





1) Mr. Eger is NOT an employee of Glock nor does he represent Glock in any way.

2) The respondent from Glock has been redacted. Oh, did I say anonymous?

3) Requests for information like this occur often for companies like Glock from the news media, bloggers and a multitude of others. The respondent will typically allow their name to be used when the response is as innocuous as this.




I do not know Mr. Eger, nor do I know his motives or agenda. Why this person at Glock was left as anonymous I do not know and I will not draw any conclusions. However, I do not consider this to be a valid citation of the official position of Glock on the issue of dry-firing!
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Some might classify a reply like that as "*******-ish".
Gee, ya think? And here I was questioning your ability for independent thought.
I do, however, take tremendous offense to your egregious use of profanity. It's a violation of forum rules and will have to be reported to the moderators.

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(EDIT: In your very next post you ask someone else for sources, yet when I post a source, you say it lacks independent thought? Sounds like a plan)
Sounds like a plan for..what? Or is that just a line you like to throw out there?
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