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Old 09-28-2016, 05:31 PM   #1
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Showdown: SIG P229 Legion vs. SIG M11-A1

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Old 09-29-2016, 03:07 AM   #2
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That's not a "showdown!"

That's a "gun show" of two great guns!!!! It just doesn't get better.
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The only thing I strongly disagree with in his review is that "not having a rail on a 21st century semi-auto is just plain bad". It's one of the things I like most about my M11 and in point of fact the rail on the Sigs isn't that standard anyway (and just what are you going to mount? Please don't say a light, as making a flashlight weapon IS a Bad Idea).

But it's interesting otherwise.
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One of the biggest reasons I got the P229 I did is because it has no rail.
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Old 09-29-2016, 06:09 AM   #5
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I have one of each, with each doing different duty.
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Old 09-29-2016, 07:20 AM   #6
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I hame a M11-A1 and love it! I have been thinking about the 229 legion for several months but can not decide if the differences make that a good buy.

The article has not helped me much lol. I figured the trigger in the legion would be better.
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If you all haven't seen this already, it's a good way to burn some down time. Guy "upgrades" his W. German P226 to Legion specs.

http://http://www.realgunreviews.com...-legion-specs/
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The only thing I strongly disagree with in his review is that "not having a rail on a 21st century semi-auto is just plain bad". It's one of the things I like most about my M11 and in point of fact the rail on the Sigs isn't that standard anyway (and just what are you going to mount? Please don't say a light, as making a flashlight weapon IS a Bad Idea).

But it's interesting otherwise.


Agreed. I think the option is good, but generalizing like that made no sense to me either. I have the P229 and I've ordered an M11. I did so because it doesn't have a rail. Seems Sig understands me more than the author
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Given the quality of the M11-A1 and similar features, I agree with the article, I can pick and choose what I would like from the Legion and have it done to the M11-A1. I personally like the idea of having no rail, it only adds weight if you're not going to use it. You can buy the G10 grips on any website and the Legion logo/badge doesnt mean squat—for me its about performance and reliablity and they both have that in their corner.

As I have said before, if I had to choose to have only one gun, my M11-A1 would walk away with it. Its a great firearm.
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I have one of each, with each doing different duty.
Exactly that.

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The only thing I strongly disagree with in his review is that "not having a rail on a 21st century semi-auto is just plain bad". It's one of the things I like most about my M11 and in point of fact the rail on the Sigs isn't that standard anyway (and just what are you going to mount? Please don't say a light, as making a flashlight weapon IS a Bad Idea).

But it's interesting otherwise.
As an ex-cop (way before lights on weapons) I can see the advantage of a weapon mounted light, and the weak arguments against it too. For home defense it makes sense to have a WML and maybe one with a built in laser too. Just one less thing to grab and juggle when the bump in the night turns out to be evil.

I have P229's both ways, a 90's vintage sans rail I carry, and a railed 2007 that has laser, light and suppressor for nightstand. I used to carry this gun, stripping all the doo-dads off in the morning and remounting them at bedtime. That worked okay, as did concealed carry with the empty rail - really no problem at all. And though I consider the lack of a rail nice for conceal carry, practically it's more about esthetics than necessity.

If I had just one P229, for practical reasons it would have a rail.
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I think the one time you DON'T want to put a light on a gun is at home, for your nightstand. I'm only going by what I've read time and again by experts, but it makes sense to me -- to identify your targets you first need to light up things which are NOT targets, and pointing a gun at something you DON'T want to destroy violates at least one of the main tenants of good firearm rules.

In a home it could be other loved ones, pets, or even just a person in the wrong house (with no Bad Intentions). Every single expert I've ever read cautions against this, and I will not disagree with them (illuminate separately, THEN point a weapon if need be).
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I like not having a rail when I carry, but wish it did so it could be on my nightstand. Currently have 2022 w/ Streamlight TLR-1 on my nightstand.

Thinking of getting 226 just to have at night.
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I think the one time you DON'T want to put a light on a gun is at home, for your nightstand. I'm only going by what I've read time and again by experts, but it makes sense to me -- to identify your targets you first need to light up things which are NOT targets, and pointing a gun at something you DON'T want to destroy violates at least one of the main tenants of good firearm rules.

In a home it could be other loved ones, pets, or even just a person in the wrong house (with no Bad Intentions). Every single expert I've ever read cautions against this, and I will not disagree with them (illuminate separately, THEN point a weapon if need be).
This right here. Give me a smooth chin SIG, I have no need for a rail.
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I like not having a rail when I carry, but wish it did so it could be on my nightstand. Currently have 2022 w/ Streamlight TLR-1 on my nightstand.



Thinking of getting 226 just to have at night.


I have a P229, laser light and suppressor along with separate light (for reasons explained above) for bedside but not for carry IMHO.

A P226 is fantastic for home defense.
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I haven't shot either one. But I do believe my next pistol will be a M11-A1 .
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