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Old 06-13-2011, 09:13 AM   #1
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I just bought my very first SIG weapon!

I'm a die hard HK guy, but decided to give the 9mm. SIG P226 Tactiacal Operations model a go.



Before the review, heres a bit of info on each weapon:





9mm. HK USP Combat Competition:

4.25" lenght barrel, with polygonal rifling.

Novak fiber optic front sight, Novak high resolution rear sight.

HK Jet-Funnel.

18+1 round capacity polymer JF magazines.

HK Match/LEM-Hybrid trigger system.



9mm. SIG P226 Tactical Operations:

4.4" length barrel with standard rifling.

TRUGLO® Tritium Fiber Optic front sight, SIGLITE® Night Sights

SIG TacOps grips w/flared magwell.

20+1 round capacity steel "super-cap" magazines.

SIG SRT(Short Reset Trigger) system.





While totally different in design, these two guns are EXTREMELY similar in function, and equipment.





I had a blast with both weapons at the range on thursday, and here's what I found:



I shot the HK first, as I am already very familiar with it, and figured it more fair to warm up with before shooting the SIG.

I fired a total of 50 rounds through each weapon at a range of 20 yards.



HK USP Combat Competition, 50rds. @ 20yds.









SIG P226 Tactical Operations, 50rds. @ 20yds











The felt recoil between the two was incredibly close, and felt the same to me.

While two totally different trigger designs, they are suprisingly similar in function once you start firing from the trigger reset from either weapon.

To me, the HK has a shorter trigger reset, and ZERO overtravel, but is a much harder/stiff pull.

The SIG, while having the just very slightly longer reset, does have a bit of overtravel, but is a MUCH lighter and smoother pull.

Both weapons were 100% reliable through al 50 rounds, with no hiccups of any sort.

The only edge I have to give to either weapon, is a personal one: The "rounder?" SIG grip is more comfortable in my girly little hands, than the blockiness of the USP is, but plays no part in one's function over the other.



While it's completely obvious that *I* shot the HK more accurately, both guns will outshoot me, and I have no opion as to which weapon is better, as it will take someone with a far better shooting skill than myself to figure that out.

They both are VERY similar in funtion, and are definitely equals at the range, and I'm sure givin a bit more practice I can become just as good with the SIG, as I have become with the HK.



Hope you enjoyed the read as much as I did the shoot.



-Wes
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Old 06-13-2011, 08:06 PM   #2
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That was very interesting...



I compared my HK P2000 and my P229R about a year ago... Both are 9mm, and my results were that I shot my 229 better than the P2000. They both shoot more accurately than I can... but I have been shooting Sig's longer than HK's... and probably is the reason why I shot my 229 better than my P2000.
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That was very interesting...

I compared my HK P2000 and my P229R about a year ago...┬*┬*Both are 9mm, and my results were that I shot my 229 better than the P2000.┬*┬*They both shoot more accurately than I can...┬*┬*but I have been shooting Sig's longer than HK's... and probably is the reason why I shot my 229 better than my P2000.


Yeah, see it's the same for me, just opposite with the brands.

I shoot my HK's better, cause I've been shooting them for years, but with more practice with my SIG, I'm sure I can shoot just as good with it.



I too have a P2000, it's a V2 LEM in .40S&W, and mine is scary accurate.

Oddly enought I'm most accurate with it, but it rarely sees any action, since I rarely shoot .40....



REALLY liking this SIG though, and I'm gonna tray to get back out to the range with it tomorrow.



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Very cool update. I am going to go the other route with the HK and buy the P30L. I can't believe how accurate my Tac Ops is. My biggest complaint about HK is the cost of the Mags and it only has 15 rounds.



Here is my TacOps target at 15 yards semi-rapid fire.



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Thanks for the review on your new Sig , great shooting with both pistols.
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Very cool update. I am going to go the other route with the HK and buy the P30L. I can't believe how accurate my Tac Ops is. My biggest complaint about HK is the cost of the Mags and it only has 15 rounds.

Here is my TacOps target at 15 yards semi-rapid fire.


My P30L is my favorite shooting, and best feeling weapon, but unfortunately has the WORST trigger of any HK I've ever owned, or even shot for that matter...

Mags *can* be had at a decent price. The most I've paid for a P30 mag is $30 - shipped, but I try to hold out for the $20 - $25 deals though....



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Thanks for the review on your new Sig , great shooting with both pistols.


Thanks brother!



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Thanks for the review on your new Sig , great shooting with both pistols.


Do you know if anybody makes Mag extensions for the P30?
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Do you know if anybody makes Mag extensions for the P30?


As of right now, nobody does.

Plenty of people want them, and plenty of people are trying to make them...



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I didn't care for my P2000 (.40, V3) trigger at all so I sold it. I guess I'm too used to my wonderful out of the box P Series triggers. I just picked up a SP2022, and its' trigger, out of the box, is still better than the P2000 I sold or the USPc .40 I sold before it. I guess I'm a Sig guy for life.
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Yeah, outside of HK's Match trigger, or Hybrid-LEM, their triggers leave alot to be desired...

Hell, a simple $35 Bill Springfield trigger job does the trick though. The difference is like night and day.



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Yeah Bill does awesome work on almost all HK models. I sent my SA/DA USP 45 to him a couple years back and it came back premo. A good friend of mine sent his P2000SK 40 LEM to him and it came back really nice as well. I think it was around 4.5 pounds for the LEM. Anyone who dislikes their HK trigger should not hesitate to send their gun to Bill, he is regarded as one of the most fair and most skilled gunsmiths in regards to HK pistols. I loved my west german 226 but it just wasn't there on the repeatable reliability side. Loved the trigger, loved the ergos, didnt care to much for the inconsistency and have since replaced it with a CZ75 SP-01 Phantom.
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I own two HK USP Compacts and tried to love the P30 but the trigger was dreadful. The Sigs just does everything smoother. If I am going to carry a polymer gun then the Walther PPQ sets the standard. Its trigger is scary light,crisp and puts to shame all other polymer guns. Get a action enhancement done on your Sig and you will never carry the HK. Butter smooooth. Most all my guns sit in vault these days except a custom shop P229 and Walther PPQ. Both are perfection in different ways.

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Solid shooting either way! I would not want to be on the receiving end of any of that.
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Review

Outstanding review
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Love my Tacops 9mm! Also enjoy reading how it stacks up against other high end combat handguns!
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